we all know

I would not have thought you would be foolish enough to fall for those kind of scare tactics let alone promote them



Longy on the bench because he has returned form injury and his form before that was not the best, and Obst & Horney more than proved their starting place from the Wigan & Cru game.

Westy was signed as a 13 so that just kind of made that theory look silly

I totally agree with those who say "blame the players as well".

The solution is therefore to either sack Agar OR all of the players.

I think we all know that only one of these is possible.

Spot on.

agree the players need to take blame for missed tries and bad plays , but dont you think playing players out of position bad interchanges lack of gametime , too much gametime , must be having an effect on the team .
on paper we have a great team, lack of belief in the coach or tactics must have a massive effect could go on and on but too depressing

We played like the team had only just met. There's just no improvement or Change of tactics at all. You could rewind this performance and it wouldn't look out of place within the past 3 years.

What is shocking about that? Wigan were a pretty average team who scraped into the play-offs a couple of times and never really performed that well. Then McGuire arrived last season and they suddenly became world-beaters. The only new addition was Deacon who spent most of the year injured. I'm pretty sure if McGuire was in charge of Hull rather than Wigan, Hull would win the league.

Peter Sharp's last game as Coach was at the Stoop (May 0icon_cool.gif. Is history about to repeat itself? We can but hope.

Tonight wasn't the worst performance I've ever seen from a Hull side, there was some truly excrutiating displays in 1999, but tonight was the first time in a long while that I've felt we are heading to rock bottom.

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. For gods sake someone end this misery before the season implodes completely.

It was always going to be the case that had we won, Agar was right to put Long back in. Had we lost, Obst and Horne deserved to continue as they were.

I personally had no issue with putting Long back in at 7 as it gave us a chance to see our first choice halves with Houghton and Obst interchanging at hooker, shame Horney had a bit of a mare. Not a fan of interchange scrum halves but who knows, they could be the new pivotal fullbacks?

Nice thought, we will probably give it to Webster for the seasona and then appoint him

Scare tactics? Promote them? what are you on about?

Given our record for appointing coaches we won't get what we want. Think of the one coach you wouldn't want and he will get it. The Hull board don't spend big on coaches so why will now be any different?

Long would be useless from the bench and offer nothing, either pick him or don't.

Thank you for your input - you are so right and I dont think us supporters are going to accept that mediocrity much longer - I really think it is now in the hands of Richard Agar - he needs to wake up in the morning and pick up the phone and tell Kath H that he is resigning. Please dont Ring James Rule, Richard because he will spin you into staying cos really he hasnt the first clue how to go about recruiting your replacement.
PS to everybody I think probably Kath H hasnt either.

Rubbish, trying to make out like Agar couldn't win on that one. We were one win from five before today and one of the few bright spots was that for the first time in years we appeared to have a decent halfback partnership developing in Horne and Obst, we were in no position whatsoever to be moving things around to 'have a look at our first choice pairing' etc. Agar changed one of the few things that was working because he didn't have the balls to leave Long out and he deserves to be criticised for that.

I would just like to thank FC for convincing me to stay over for the final day of the Cheltenham Festival rather than come last night to watch was probably a right shower of te tonight.

Nice one FC, i knew you wouldnt let me down

What's funny? Obst was signed as cover for Houghton aswell as the halves and he is used to coming off the bench.

Indeed but he was always going to be learning from Fitz so it's not really surprising.

I was also of the opinion that long + Horne and Houghton/Obst was the best option. Didn't turn out great.

Long was useless and offered nothing tonight anyway



We will not be getting McBananna, no matter what expro tells you

This mate,is why I am questioning my sanity.Taking into account mine and my mrs admission fee,the price of crossing the bridge,and petrol money,and seeing total dross for the pleasure of it,then I am truly bonkers.

Where does it say he was signed just to cover Houghton ??....he has done very well covering the h/backs so I suspect he will be used regularly in those roles.

Why would Westy want to learn how to play like a prop

He did from the game I watched, he looked sharp for his first game back.

Again where does this come from, are you insane? You constantly make reference to this and it is completely rubbish. It's nothing to do with Expro/Icecreamman or anyone else on here.

I know the board have relaionship with him and he was sounded out before Agar got the job.

Well that was his primary roll at Wakey for the past few years! Oh and where did I say he was signed just to cover Houghton. I said he was signed to cover 6,7,9.

If he can't learn from a player like Fitz then he should not be playing the game.

Knowing the board they'll look at what an ex-player has done to give Liverpool FC a lift

and then bring in Paul Cooke.

If Briscoe didn't bomb a hat-trick and we converted even half of the other numerous great chances to score, people would not have mentioned swapping the halves around.

Believe me I am the last person who would stick up for Agar but if its between Long/Horne and Houghton/Obst or Obst/Horne and Houghton/Washbrook, my personal preference would be the first one.

You stand alone in your opinion of that, he was pants clearly your knowledge of the game is not too sharp.

I am not insane, as you saw tonight just a normal person