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| Quote ="CHEWIE7"Just a little observation.......I drove back from London early on Friday to be able to get to the game. Lost quite a bit of money in my earnings, and spent a fortune on Deisel too. Got to the KC, paid my £22 and took my seat......THEN WAS DULY AWARDED WITH A FARSE!!!!
It was like watching 'puberty' at a boys Grammar School happening in front of me, with the amount of balls dropping, the FC boys should all have much deeper voices too!!!!!!. Just utterly terrible......BUT, I did count the amount of trys Hull FC 'bombed' with the line at their mercy. Without the conversions going over for these trys that never was......We would've had at least 28 points on the board as well as the 6 we actually did get.
Now........Call me what ya like, and this again is my observation, but Richard Agar was not passing or catching the ball on Friday......WAS HE?
As 'Black and Whitely' has already said......Agar has got the players respect, he doesnt take any nonsense from any of them and he has, on paper, got a pretty damn good team.
Those calling for Nobby to come and take over, remember this, [uWhile in charge of the GB set-up, he seemed to have an almost disregard for Hull FC players.....He, in my oppinion, doesnt seem to like our city at all. Again, just an observation.[/u OK the guy wants a job.....But hell, if i wanted a job right now, and was offered a place at Hull KR i'd probably take it for the money...... Do we want a coach that would only be here for the cash?????
Agar must be gutted hearing the Boo's and the chants to get him out.......But you never know, the players might've taken them same chants 'n' boo's on board and wipe the baby oil off their hands for the next game. I know for a fact that had those passes stuck, we would have won that game on Friday. Richard Agar is not at fault for pro RL players not being (seemingly) able to catch a bleedin' ball.
Personally....I was embarrased to hear the return of the Boo's.... and the chants left a sour taste (i didn't join in) but if the players are still behind the guy and actually want to save his job.....Then maybe they will catch a few balls at weekend, AND WE'LL WIN...AND KEEP WINNING
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That's certainly not true.
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| Quote ="CHEWIE7"Just a little observation.......I drove back from London early on Friday to be able to get to the game. Lost quite a bit of money in my earnings, and spent a fortune on Deisel too. Got to the KC, paid my £22 and took my seat......THEN WAS DULY AWARDED WITH A FARSE!!!!
It was like watching 'puberty' at a boys Grammar School happening in front of me, with the amount of balls dropping, the FC boys should all have much deeper voices too!!!!!!. Just utterly terrible......BUT, I did count the amount of trys Hull FC 'bombed' with the line at their mercy. Without the conversions going over for these trys that never was......We would've had at least 28 points on the board as well as the 6 we actually did get.
Now........Call me what ya like, and this again is my observation, but Richard Agar was not passing or catching the ball on Friday......WAS HE?
As 'Black and Whitely' has already said......Agar has got the players respect, he doesnt take any nonsense from any of them and he has, on paper, got a pretty damn good team.
Those calling for Nobby to come and take over, remember this, While in charge of the GB set-up, he seemed to have an almost disregard for Hull FC players.....He, in my oppinion, doesnt seem to like our city at all. Again, just an observation. OK the guy wants a job.....But hell, if i wanted a job right now, and was offered a place at Hull KR i'd probably take it for the money...... Do we want a coach that would only be here for the cash?????
Agar must be gutted hearing the Boo's and the chants to get him out.......But you never know, the players might've taken them same chants 'n' boo's on board and wipe the baby oil off their hands for the next game. I know for a fact that had those passes stuck, we would have won that game on Friday. Richard Agar is not at fault for pro RL players not being (seemingly) able to catch a bleedin' ball.
Personally....I was embarrased to hear the return of the Boo's.... and the chants left a sour taste (i didn't join in) but if the players are still behind the guy and actually want to save his job.....Then maybe they will catch a few balls at weekend, AND WE'LL WIN...AND KEEP WINNING
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Great post but the people talking sense are now a very small minority and he will pay the price for the players just like those before him.
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| Quote ="JMSports_Ltd"Great post but the people talking sense are now a very small minority '"
How do you make that out?
Agar is the captain of the ship,the ship is heading towards the rocks.The passengers are getting twitchy.
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| Quote ="barton baird"How do you make that out?
Agar is the captain of the ship,the ship is heading towards the rocks.The passengers are getting twitchy.'"
Many have already launched the lifeboats. This is the problem.
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| Quote ="JMSports_Ltd"Great post but the people talking sense are now a very small minority and he will pay the price for the players just like those before him.'"
They're his players though
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Many have already launched the lifeboats. This is the problem.'"
It will be interesting to see the attendance for the Cas game,probably as many for them as us.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"They're his players though'"
I am certain that some of these current 'Superstars' were not his signings at all.
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| Quote ="JMSports_Ltd"Great post but the people talking sense are now a very small minority and he will pay the price for the players just like those before him.'"
Ok, so Agar is paying the price for the players just like Sharpe, Kear and Bomber did before him.
Given that they all achieved far more than Agar has under the same working conditions, surely that means that Agar is an inferior coach to all three of them?
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| Quote ="JMSports_Ltd"I am certain that some of these current 'Superstars' were not his signings at all.'"
whose were they then
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| Quote ="arliebird"whose were they then
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Come on, dont be silly.
Who do you think made them? Clue - JR and KH
Someone maybe wanting to cash in with season ticket sales and merchandise?
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| i think if hull sack agar rovers will go for him,they go for all fc cast offs and at least agar got us to a major final,something mr morgan hasnt done.
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| Quote ="JMSports_Ltd"I am certain that some of these current 'Superstars' were not his signings at all.'"
I'm sure you're right mate and I know you have the inside track on some of the goings on at the club.
Although the evidence may suggest otherwise, agar may well be a great technical coach, however his inability to get his team performing on the pitch, for whatever reason, means he isn't a leader in any way shape or form and that is why he isn't a SL quality coach IMO
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| Quote ="garry brindley"Ok, so Agar is paying the price for the players just like Sharpe, Kear and Bomber did before him.
Given that they all achieved far more than Agar has under the same working conditions, surely that means that Agar is an inferior coach to all three of them?'"
Just a point of order...
Bomber didn't pay the price for anything. He left of his own accord to go back to the NRL.
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| Quote ="JMSports_Ltd"icon_lol.gif Come on, dont be silly.
Who do you think made them? Clue - JR and KH
Someone maybe wanting to cash in with season ticket sales and merchandise?'"
Exactly, that is why any future coach will have hands tied, as KH runs the club/team not the coach, she needs to go, simple as, we will never attract a top coach while she is here as they will want full control of team affairs which they know they wont get.
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| Just hearing Agar has walked....(mind you I suppose the rumours will be in overdrive today)
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"Just hearing Agar has walked....(mind you I suppose the rumours will be in overdrive today)'"
As much as I'd like that to be true I can't see it been anything other than a rumour.
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"Just hearing Agar has walked....(mind you I suppose the rumours will be in overdrive today)'" hearing the same bb also people posting on facebook,announcement later today early tommorrow.maybe rubbish but strong rumours,but arent they all in hull lol
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| I very much doubt Agar has walked, if he does then I hope he does a warts and all interview and tells us what is going on at OUR club, many people are suggesting that it isn't all Agars fault.
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| Quote ="Standee"I very much doubt Agar has walked, if he does then I hope he does a warts and all interview and tells us what is going on at OUR club, many people are suggesting that it isn't all Agars fault.'" from what ive heard its definetly not all down to agar!!!!
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| Quote ="Andrea FC"from what ive heard its definetly not all down to agar!!!!'"
then it's time someone spilled the beans.
McRae referred to a "cancer" at the club many years ago, evidence suggests it still exists.
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| Quote ="Standee"I very much doubt Agar has walked, if he does then I hope he does a warts and all interview and tells us what is going on at OUR club, many people are suggesting that it isn't all Agars fault.'"
Of course it isn't [iall[/i his fault. No one man can be totally responsible for the crap we've been serving up for the last three years. But whatever else has gone on behind the scenes, he has consistently failed to get the best out of the players at his disposal, and for that he must shoulder the responsibility.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"Of course it isn't [iall[/i his fault. No one man can be totally responsible for the crap we've been serving up for the last three years. But whatever else has gone on behind the scenes, he has consistently failed to get the best out of the players at his disposal, and for that he must shoulder the responsibility.'"
I don't disagree, I am just interested (as I think we all are) to know what really goes on at FC, does Kath pick the players, does the coach have recruitment decisiond made for them?
Agar has to go, but I've been saying that for years.
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| Quote ="Standee"
McRae referred to a "cancer" at the club many years ago, evidence suggests it still exists.'"
Perhaps, but we won a cup final and reached a grand final after the cancer comments. Did it go into remission for a little while?
I also seem to remember Bomber assuring us he'd get rid of the cancer. If he meant that Hetherington et al were the source of the malignancy, it seems unlikely he would have made such a statement.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"Perhaps, but we won a cup final and reached a grand final after the cancer comments. Did it go into remission for a little while?
I also seem to remember Bomber assuring us he'd get rid of the cancer. If he meant that Hetherington et al were the source of the malignancy, it seems unlikely he would have made such a statement.'"
Just about every coach we have had has made assurances that the "drinking culture" would go and we'd be a lot more professional.
Not so much "raising the bar" as closing it would seem to be necessary!
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| Quote ="Standee"Just about every coach we have had has made assurances that the "drinking culture" would go and we'd be a lot more professional.
Not so much "raising the bar" as closing it would seem to be necessary!'"
The point I'm making is that if the 'cancer' was the drinking culture, it seems unlikely that Kath would allow it to continue. In fact, history gives us at least some evidence that this is not the case. If the 'cancer' was Kath and the board interfering in team affairs, it seems unlikely that Bomber would pledge to rid our club of it.
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