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| Quote ="Kosh"Not relevant, but actually pretty close to Agar's.'"
Thats what I mean
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"I've got a new sig, at least.
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If I was going to replace Preckie, so would I.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"So, Kear 57% (and a Challenge Cup), given 15 months
Sharp 58% (and a Grand Final), given 24 months
Agar 42% given 35 months+ with a further 2 unexpired years to go.
Is that right?'"
Unbelievable that!
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| Is it also worth pointing out that if Crusaders win this weekend, they'll be above us, despite a 4 point deduction for going into administration?
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| Quote ="Kosh"Completely baffling. I can only assume that after having three coaches leave in relatively short order (Bomber, Kear, Sharp) they decided to try for a bit of stability. Shame they picked completely the wrong bloke to support.'"
Agreed, I didn't want Kear to be sacked or Sharp, I also said on Agars appointment that he wasn't the right man but with the decision made he needed to be given his full two and a half year contract regardless of results just for a little bit of stability at least, at the end of last season I would have said thanks but no thanks Richard, and enabled the new man to have a pre season and an input on recruitment.
The decision to extend his contract when it was was criminal, and somebody should be held accountable for that.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"So, Kear 57% (and a Challenge Cup), given 15 months
Sharp 58% (and a Grand Final), given 24 months
Agar 42% given 35 months+ with a further 2 unexpired years to go.
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Unbelievable
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| Quote ="Chris28"Is it also worth pointing out that if Crusaders win this weekend, they'll be above us, despite a 4 point deduction for going into administration?'"
Thanks for that. Right cheered me up.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Thanks for that. Right cheered me up.
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My pleasure.
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| Quote ="jordanp"Agreed, I didn't want Kear to be sacked or Sharp, I also said on Agars appointment that he wasn't the right man but with the decision made he needed to be given his full two and a half year contract regardless of results just for a little bit of stability at least, at the end of last season I would have said thanks but no thanks Richard, and enabled the new man to have a pre season and an input on recruitment.
The decision to extend his contract when it was was criminal, and somebody should be held accountable for that.'"
Pretty much how I feel. I think the decision to offer him the extension came off the back of the rumours about him being offered the England job, which is just laughable.
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| Quote ="rabidbadger"John Kear: 2005 15-2-11
2006 3-0-4
Win ratio 51.4% (53.6% for full season 2005 which of course included a CC win)
Peter Sharpe: 2006 14-0-3
2007 14-2-11
2008 4-1-9
Win Ratio 55.2%
Shaun McRae: 2000 12-1-15
2001 20-2-6
2002 16-0-12
2003 13-3-12
2004 19-2-7
Win ratio 57.1%
So, Statistly Agar is confirmed as our worst coach, by a significant margin, over the last decade...'"
Well Rule and the rest of the board don't deal in rumour and speculation ... It's there for all of them to see. What a joke they are.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Pretty much how I feel. I think the decision to offer him the extension came off the back of the rumours about him being offered the England job, which is just laughable.'"
Even more so when we'll be paying Agar off [uand[/u a fee to the RFL to secure McNamara.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Completely baffling. I can only assume that after having three coaches leave in relatively short order (Bomber, Kear, Sharp) they decided to try for a bit of stability. Shame they picked completely the wrong bloke to support.'"
I've always thought the 'stability breeds success' idea was a bit of a myth. If you can forgive the football comparison look at Man Utd and Arsenal, it always gets trotted out that it's no coincidence that the two most successful clubs of the PL era (Chelsea aside) have the two longest-serving managers. But if you look at Ferguson, aside from a fairly barren first 4 years (where he was given time due to the pedigree he had built up while at Aberdeen) it's the fact that he has consistently won trophies that has kept him in the job for 20 odd years. It's the same story with Wenger, Arsenal are in a barren spell at the moment as they've been going through a financial transition, but his job was never in doubt because he's consistently proven over his time there that he's the right man for the job by being successful.
IMO rather than stability breeding success, it's actually that [isuccess breeds stability[/i. If you have the wrong guy like Hull FC clearly do, all you're really doing by giving him so much time is the giving the monkey a typewriter thing.
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| Makes me wonder if the board have had him in because we have only won 3 out of the last 10, because he sure looks like he has lost the plot now, is he a man under pressure ?
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Even more so when we'll be paying Agar off [uand[/u a fee to the RFL to secure McNamara.
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| Quote ="jordanp"Agreed, I didn't want Kear to be sacked or Sharp, I also said on Agars appointment that he wasn't the right man but with the decision made he needed to be given his full two and a half year contract regardless of results just for a little bit of stability at least, at the end of last season I would have said thanks but no thanks Richard, and enabled the new man to have a pre season and an input on recruitment.
The decision to extend his contract when it was was criminal, and somebody should be held accountable for that.'"
Couldn't agree more
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| How many did Kear lose towards the end of 2005 and the beginning of 2006 ?.
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| Quote ="B0NES"How many did Kear lose towards the end of 2005 and the beginning of 2006 ?.'"
After the Cup semi win in 2005, we went LWL WLWLWL (bold being the Cup win).
2006 went WWLLLWL. First two were big wins over Wakey and Cas, last game was 0-46 at home to Saints.
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| Quote ="Smiggs"One can only assume he's working for free'"
Maybe a Hudgell type agreement?
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Maybe just to make sure we should point these statistics out to the club?
www.hullfc.com/hullfc/contents/?page_id=4028
And ask them why previous coaches have not been givn such a length of time despite having a superior win / loss record
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Maybe just to make sure we should point these statistics out to the club?
www.hullfc.com/hullfc/contents/?page_id=4028
And ask them why previous coaches have not been givn such a length of time despite having a superior win / loss record
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Quote ="The Coach"Maybe just to make sure we should point these statistics out to the club?
www.hullfc.com/hullfc/contents/?page_id=4028
And ask them why previous coaches have not been givn such a length of time despite having a superior win / loss record'"
Message sent which reads
Just wanted to add my voice to the masses of disgruntled FC fans with our current head coach Richard Agar. Last nights performance was very poor against an injury ravaged Leeds side and indeed the final straw for many fans. The team play with no cohesion, a lack of interest, shocking attack and very poor disorganised defense and are dire to watch, infact so dire that i will not be attending another match till Agar has been removed from his position and the club appoint a top quality coach.
If you look at Agars win ratio of just 43% in the three years he's been in charge against that of Kear at 57& and Sharp at 58% yet both were shown the door for much less than Agar so why is this being allowed to continue?
Can i also ask the club to stop treating the fans like idiots with the false positive spin that it constantly emulates. You only have to look at indepenent reports of last nights match on sky and the bbc which talk of us being poor against the clubs own website which speaks of a completely different match. We are not fools and i fear that people are now going to start staying away on mass which may take time to remedy if this drags on for much longer. So please please remove Agar from his coaching role and give us the coach a club of our size and stature deserves for once
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Quote ="The Coach"Maybe just to make sure we should point these statistics out to the club?
www.hullfc.com/hullfc/contents/?page_id=4028
And ask them why previous coaches have not been givn such a length of time despite having a superior win / loss record'"
Message sent which reads
Just wanted to add my voice to the masses of disgruntled FC fans with our current head coach Richard Agar. Last nights performance was very poor against an injury ravaged Leeds side and indeed the final straw for many fans. The team play with no cohesion, a lack of interest, shocking attack and very poor disorganised defense and are dire to watch, infact so dire that i will not be attending another match till Agar has been removed from his position and the club appoint a top quality coach.
If you look at Agars win ratio of just 43% in the three years he's been in charge against that of Kear at 57& and Sharp at 58% yet both were shown the door for much less than Agar so why is this being allowed to continue?
Can i also ask the club to stop treating the fans like idiots with the false positive spin that it constantly emulates. You only have to look at indepenent reports of last nights match on sky and the bbc which talk of us being poor against the clubs own website which speaks of a completely different match. We are not fools and i fear that people are now going to start staying away on mass which may take time to remedy if this drags on for much longer. So please please remove Agar from his coaching role and give us the coach a club of our size and stature deserves for once
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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"Message sent which reads
Just wanted to add my voice to the masses of disgruntled FC fans with our current head coach Richard Agar. Last nights performance was very poor against an injury ravaged Leeds side and indeed the final straw for many fans. The team play with no cohesion, a lack of interest, shocking attack and very poor disorganised defense and are dire to watch, infact so dire that i will not be attending another match till Agar has been removed from his position and the club appoint a top quality coach.
If you look at Agars win ratio of just 43% in the three years he's been in charge against that of Kear at 57& and Sharp at 58% yet both were shown the door for much less than Agar so why is this being allowed to continue?
Can i also ask the club to stop treating the fans like idiots with the false positive spin that it constantly emulates. You only have to look at indepenent reports of last nights match on sky and the bbc which talk of us being poor against the clubs own website which speaks of a completely different match. We are not fools and i fear that people are now going to start staying away on mass which may take time to remedy if this drags on for much longer. So please please remove Agar from his coaching role and give us the coach a club of our size and stature deserves for once'"
I applaude your one man protest...
Keep up the good work.. lol
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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"Message sent which reads
Just wanted to add my voice to the masses of disgruntled FC fans with our current head coach Richard Agar. Last nights performance was very poor against an injury ravaged Leeds side and indeed the final straw for many fans. The team play with no cohesion, a lack of interest, shocking attack and very poor disorganised defense and are dire to watch, infact so dire that i will not be attending another match till Agar has been removed from his position and the club appoint a top quality coach.
If you look at Agars win ratio of just 43% in the three years he's been in charge against that of Kear at 57& and Sharp at 58% yet both were shown the door for much less than Agar so why is this being allowed to continue?
Can i also ask the club to stop treating the fans like idiots with the false positive spin that it constantly emulates. You only have to look at indepenent reports of last nights match on sky and the bbc which talk of us being poor against the clubs own website which speaks of a completely different match. We are not fools and i fear that people are now going to start staying away on mass which may take time to remedy if this drags on for much longer. So please please remove Agar from his coaching role and give us the coach a club of our size and stature deserves for once'"
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| I've done Tell Us, Skysports and League Express. Anyone else I can bore the pants off?
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| Quote ="dundeeblackandwhite"I applaude your one man protest...
Keep up the good work.. lol'"
It's now at least a two-man protest ! and reads.............
After attending the "game" last night, I feel compelled to tell you that I will not be attending the KC again until our "coach" has been relieved of his duties. I hope you are not under-estimating the huge amount of disgruntled FC fans who can just not stand to see a club of our stature blindly fumbling along under our current head coach Richard Agar.
Last nights performance was unbelievably poor, especially as we were playing against an injury ravaged Leeds side and the very poor attendance should tell you that the majority of fans are now just totally filled with apathy. The team play with no flair, an apparent lack of interest, a total lack of ability in attack and now Mr.Agar has added to this a very poor goal-line defense.
We pay the highest prices in SL and sit and watch by far the least entertaining rugby. We really do deserve better !
The vast majority of fans want Agar removed from his current coaching role and we would like you to give us the coach that a club of our size and stature deserves for once ! Please do not even consider giving us Steve McBanana because that would be the final straw !
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