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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Well said.
I think we'll improve next year just by having Long and Horne fit more often. If we get them on the pitch together 15-20 times next season (only 60%+) we'll look a lot better. I'm not as concerned by Long's injuries as i am by Horne's. Longs dislocated elbow was a freak accident as was him turning his ankle against Wire, other than that he would of played 20+ games this year. Horne is really worrying, lots of niggly muscle/ligament injuries from non contact activities.'"
well said Easty, i think next year just to have those two fit for a lump of the season together will seem like having two new players on the rosta anyway , what ever the numpties say SL is still one of the best SH in SL when fit and when on form possibly still the best , i agree with the worries about RH but i also think he has been unlucky too in many respects and will have a point to prove next year between them....
It makes perfect sense to get a cover half with a different view on the game so he may bring even more to our party with new ideas and methods which can only be good for us cant it!!!
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| Quote ="EXPRO"do you mean in general or just whilst writing your initial post??
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Okay it's widely acknowledged that 6,7 & 9 are key to any sides success.
Therefore these should possibly be where the most player planning and thought should be placed.
We employed Dykes ........ Most of the time injured.
We employed Head...... Most of the time injured.
We employed Long...... Most of the time injured.
So were now about to try to secure a HB for next year at the end of this year BECAUSE we have continued to make the same poor decisions.
Is that enough thought for you?
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| Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"Spot on there Paul Thats exactly the point, suddenly we have a quota place but not enough left under the cap for a Marquee signing and none avaialble anyway so what do we do not use it or take someone short term to act as cover. Thats how I see it anyway!'"
It's a no brainer, use the spot for a year, having someone like Rovelli here can't do anything but improve us and give us more options/cover plus a few new ideas/thought processess.
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| Quote ="Lostyorkie"Okay it's widely acknowledged that 6,7 & 9 are key to any sides success.
Therefore these should possibly be where the most player planning and thought should be placed.
We employed Dykes ........ Most of the time injured.
We employed Head...... Most of the time injured.
We employed Long...... Most of the time injured.
So were now about to try to secure a HB for next year at the end of this year BECAUSE we have continued to make the same poor decisions.
Is that enough thought for you?'"
Eh don't forget Thorman...... Most of the time sh*t
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| Quote ="Smiggs"Eh don't forget Thorman...... Most of the time sh*t'"
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| Quote ="blackwhite"Agree....a downward spiral of depressing negativity based on knowing absolutley nothing regarding the goings on within the club....FFS cheer up and back ya club!!'"
Makes a change from the apparent upward spiral from people who have no knowledge of what goes on inside the club.
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| Quote ="Chris28"Makes a change from the apparent upward spiral from people who have no knowledge of what goes on inside the club.'"
that rules you out then
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| Quote ="EXPRO"that rules you out then
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True, but then I don't pretend to know what's going on
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| Quote ="Chris28"Makes a change from the apparent upward spiral from people who have no knowledge of what goes on inside the club.'"
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| Quote ="Chris28"True, but then I don't pretend to know what's going on'"
some do some dont know what is going on i guess
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| I guess you're in the "think I know" camp, unless you're betraying confidences of course
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| So back to the original point then Lostyorkie.....
We have a sapce at last minute, do we leave it empty or use it for a year with some halfback cover. Either way it won't affect any longer term plans we have for 2012.
What would you do?
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| Use it on halfback if we dont get the fev lad or maybe a creative Loose forward who can step into halfback should and injury occur to SL or RH?
If we have a quota and theres a player available to improve the team even if it is for a year then its worth it imho.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"So back to the original point then Lostyorkie.....
We have a sapce at last minute, do we leave it empty or use it for a year with some halfback cover. Either way it won't affect any longer term plans we have for 2012.
What would you do?'"
I wouldn't have any objections to us bringing in a ozzie half back for a year even if he is shiite, however if we sign him for 2 it leaves us with prolems for 2012 IMO when we have some cash to spend and don't need another squad player taking up a quota spot
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"I wouldn't have any objections to us bringing in a ozzie half back for a year even if he is shiite, however if we sign him for 2 it leaves us with prolems for 2012 IMO when we have some cash to spend and [udon't need another squad player taking up a quota spot[/u'"
that all depends tho doesnt it, what if he turned out to have a wow factor?? cant see any aussie coming over for a one year cont TBH not when halves are at a premium down under at present also
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| Quote ="EXPRO"that all depends tho doesnt it, what if he turned out to have a wow factor?? cant see any aussie coming over for a one year cont TBH not when halves are at a premium down under at present also'"
If he has a wow factor then he won't be available at the price we can afford will he? I'd rather bide our time and get teh right player. Better to have an open quota spot for 2012 IMO than sign an average player. We need to get better at dishing out our quota slots as we don't get the value we should
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"If he has a wow factor then he won't be available at the price we can afford will he? I'd rather bide our time and get teh right player. Better to have an open quota spot for 2012 IMO than sign an average player. We need to get better at dishing out our quota slots as we don't get the value we should'"
Dobsonesqe maybe?? he came with no rep at all and turned out ok..
I am pretty confident they know what they are doing, a lot of info coming back from fitz and co i believe, also led to believe that another of our old boys have had a hand in the search in oz too
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| Quote ="EXPRO"Dobsonesqe maybe?? he came with no rep at all and turned out ok..
I am pretty confident they know what they are doing, a lot of info coming back from fitz and co i believe, also led to believe that another of our old boys have had a hand in the search in oz too'"
Dobson came to Super League having played for two different clubs and was described by some Wigan fans as 50% of the partnership that stopped them going down with Nobby the other saviour.
Hardly someone unknown.
Do keep up chunk.
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| Quote ="Digger_the_Dog"
Hardly someone unknown.
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he was exactly the same as what were looking for at present when he first came to the UK,
IE had a bit of experience, was failrly unknown , no rep experience, no SOO
chugger!!
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| Quote ="EXPRO"he was exactly the same as what were looking for at present when he first came to the UK,
IE had a bit of experience, was failrly unknown , no rep experience, no SOO
chugger!!'"
Would you be man enough to call me a chugger to my face?
Because that type of cowardly comment annoys me so put up or shut up fat boy.
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| =#FF0000Okay Digger/Expro please don't go down this road. Settle your differences by pm or better still ignor each other.
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| If a quality player came up couldnt we try and pay then less this year and then give them more the season after?
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| I can't recall a team who have brought in a 6 or 7 recently and they have been firing on all cylinders from the off.
I'm sure there are a few but most teams bring them through over many years or start off with a promising project. Would bringing one in for a year do us any good? Top 7's now have been at it for a while with their clubs.. Leuluai, Burrow, Dobson and some are projects still on a learning curve, Myler, Eastmond, Tompkins.
The 3rd alternative is the Orford route paying the money for the finished article, but having to get through the settling in period which may or may not pay off.... this option, in my opinion, is the worst of the three and the one we seem to be following now.
The key is knowing when you need to start the "grooming" (for want of a better word!) process while currently in the "settled half backs" stage.
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| Quote ="EXPRO"cant see any aussie coming over for a one year cont TBH not when halves are at a premium down under at present also'"
A Quota spot should be a Marquee signing, not a sign and hope for the best.
For me we don't use it and plan for a solid 2012 signing Or possibly use the money to pick up an up and coming British player. Just like Warrington & Salford have ( I cannot believe I'm jealous of Salford).
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| i would actually wait to see who the ''alleged'' player is,before making any comment.if it were a young half-back from aus,what's to say he wont be a tremendous find?
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