singular......we have 2 wingers, when BOTH become top class, then it'll change the nature of the play!

Your saying our style of play is based on who is playing on the wings? Really?

Doesn't make sense. If it were the case that we weren't throwing the ball wide because we didn't have two top class wingers, surely we'd throw the ball wide to Briscoe's side all the more.

Collectively I think our group of wingers Briscoe,Calderwood,Lyne,Hall and Tuffour as a unit not as individuals would match any other team's for overall speed it's not their fault they don't get utilised.

well youve just shown how much you know about the dynamics of tactical play.
If im Justin Morgan, and i know Tom Briscoe is a real threat, i would ensure that the threat is snuffed out early. You neatralise the opposition threat early.
With this in mind - Agar would be an idiot to try and play through Briscoe.
Thats just common sense and good tactical observation.

Now - if we had a threat on both sides of equal magnitude, the oppo would have split attention, be more strung out, hence opening up gaps in their defensive line!

Simples.

How is he stopping the threat of Briscoe?

Through whatever tactic he employs! But it'd be a prominent tactic and a real area of focus.

Such as? C'mon its supposedly "simples" so give me an example of how Morgan went about snuffing out the threat of Briscoe and how this wouldn't have been so effective if we had the same threat on both wings.

I think you'll find the thing that is 'simples' is Northern Star.

Tactic number 1 - push the ball away from Tom Briscoes side by pushing that defensive line higher, everyone knows Hull play the ball through the middle, if i were dummy half, looked left and saw KR higher than they were on the right, i'd pass it right (and away from Tom Briscoe).

You have Willie Manu, Kirk Yeamen and Tom B on 1 wing - thats an imposing 3, so push the ball the other way. We havent got a Darren Lockyer type to kick a shallow ball over an advancing line into wingspace - so no problems stepping high.

Wow. Impressive. It seems as though none of the other SL coaches share your tactical genius seeing as we attack down our left hand side more than we do our right. Perhaps you should give them a ring and let them in on your secret?

Remind me how Berrigan's try was set up last night?

Can you explain how the defensive line can be higher up the field on our left, when the dummy half gets the ball, without being offside?

Just remind me how we scored our final try last night again please.

Thats a tactic i'd adopt - but then again im not a Super League coach - so mocking me is pretty pathetic.

I think i clearly stated 'whatever tactic Morgan would employ'. That goes for any other SL coach.
But if Hull attack down their left more than they do the right.......isnt that just making it easy for other coaches to read Hull's tactics - hence my initial point of having a 2nd top-class winger, to split the attention of the defence.

Or is that clever logic simply too much to absorb you simpleton?

You can crucify me as much as you want - but im not a SL coach, i dont claim to have anywhere near the tactical capacity - but i do know basic logic that if the oppo have a top player, you utilise a tactic to snuff out that threat.

Thats just simple stuff, which im sure isnt ignored at any level.

Shhh its a secret so dont tell everyone but......pretty much every team attacks more down their left than the right.

and......your point is?

Clearly.



If you're going to leave yourself so hopelessly exposed...



But just saying 'whatever tactic they would employ' without suggesting a workable tactic just makes you look faintly ridiculous.




It's called playing to your strengths. If you have three potent attacking players on the left, of course you are going to use them more. Also, most players pass more naturally from right to left, which improves crispness and accuracy.

Add to that the fact that most teams play a sliding defence. This means that the defence will drift across to whichever wing the ball is moving towards - it won't be any more 'stretched' at all.



No. It's just bol[il[/io[ic[/iks.

Do I really have to explain?

If you did explain, I suspect you'd be wasting your time anyway.

OK - so its .
Im prepared to take that on the chin.

So now youve slated my idea...........and appear to be some sort of Yoda-esque tactician..............what tactics would you use to neatralise Tom Briscoe.......come one......enlighten me!

Im waiting

But the particular tactic being used is crucial to your claim that having 2 top class wingers will mean we will throw the ball about a lot more. If your going to claim that those tactics support your theory then you really need to specify what those tactics are.

as someone stated before - its called playing to your strengths - if youev 2 top class wingers, you'll get the ball to them more. Am i not right?

Im prepared to admit that maybe its not a tactic people would advocate. Thats fine by me. Im no master tactician - but as im being slated by yourself - i can only assume you know better..........so educate me.
What tactic would you use to neatralise a threat like Tom Briscoe.

This is the 2nd time ive asked - dont tell me im wrong - if you dont know whats right!
Cos thats hypocrtitical.

Er, you were the one who suggested that tactics could be employed to neutralise Briscoe's attacking threat. It's not incumbent upon anyone else to say what those tactics might be.

I think I would prioritise stopping Houghton running riot around the ruck first. The fact we dont tend to get the ball wide on a regular basis means that any gameplan would have other priorities. If you really want to concentrate on stopping the winger getting the ball you need to cut off the supply and move up quickly but then this leaves you exposed in other ways.