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| Quote ="The Brother"Over the last few seasons the rugby we play since Agar has introduced a ball carrying 13 instead of ball playing 13, the dire 1 man rugby 4 drives, 1 drop ff and a kick has got worse imo, this is no knee jerk reacation to yesterdays performance i have seen this coming for some while and believe we are in a false postion in the 1st place
However there is certain questions to be answered imo
Teams that bring players in on loan don't win things (fact), infact quite the opposite you look at leeds,saints,wigan they never bring players in infact quite the opposite theres go out on loan to other clubs to gain the experience before they then feel the benefit however there is not a season goes by that we don't have some youngster from leeds on loan
When was the last time Senior,Gidley,King were taken off other than injury by there coaches during a game for a tatical substution yet Agar felt the need to replace turner who was one of the better players yesterday with hall
Out of the 17 yesterday we had Whiting on the wing,Briscoe on the wing,Washy at 6,Berro at 7,Fitz at 13,horne at 9 when he came on(ffs) that is 6 players imo not playing in there correct postion were is the logic in that, regards horne been out since the 1st of May yet is thrown in to what is now the most demanding postion to play at dummy half by the clueless coach
Everyday Tom Briscoe trains and plays on the wing is a day wasted on his devolpment as a potential world class centre imo, again agar sort it out
Why have we fallen so far behind Wire???
Simple they had the balls to realise Lowes wasn't up to the job of head coach and went and got 1 of the best and now play a fantastic brand of rugby with a great work and team ethic we sadly lack
Rule and co will put the usual spin on it that we have improved on last season regards were we finish, doesn't wash with me were are so far behind the wires,wigans,giants etc with there attacking brand of rugby because they have top class coaches were we are just quite happy to go try and stay in arm wrestle grind a dour win out instead of trying to play a team off the park with free flowing quality entertaining rugby league
Agars subs baffle me giants game away Sam Moa just had 15 minutes rest at half time agar brings him off after 2 sets in the 2nd half,bradford brings manu off 8 minutes into the 2nnd half yet 3 mintues later sends him back on to replace luakai his interchanges are a joke, certain players also need to take a look at themselves with there effort and commitment on the pitch and also id like to know why the club captain hasn't been present at either of the last 2 matches sets a great example that, maybe if he can't be bothered we should take a leaf out of his his book and save our hard earned money
Yes agar has a 2 year deal, but in the long term he he will cost us more by staying and driving many fans away than the club dipping there hands in there pocket saying your not up to it and paying the guy who is out of his depth off and ruining more seasons with his p1ss poor coaching and boring predictable game plans'"
well said Brother, having watched the black and whites for over 30 years, i can honestly say, the brand of rugby we are having to watch, is the worst ive seen, boring, sluggish dour, not enough pride in the shirt, Agar is really rubbing off on the players, he sounds boring, he looks boring and hes turned the club i love boring, wish he'd do us all a favour and admit defeat, and before some start crowing about being 4th, we wont be come the end of the season, we are painful to watch, HKR must be sh*ttin themselves having to play us on Thursday
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| This season is the first in well over 20 years I didn't buy a season pass mainly due to the dire standard of rugby we've been served under Agar. Not only that but I've given 3/4 home games this season a miss and tbh I can't even get motivated to go on Thursday. I know some will call me fickle because of this. However I still love this club passionatly but I won't pay over £20 a game to watch hookers/loose fwds pretend to be half backs, props played at loose man and slow utility backs out on the wing it's a disgrace IMO that he's allowed to get away with it.
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| Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"however for the first time in 50 odd years I am bored rigid with our rugby, it lacks tactics, flair and passion.'"
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| Quote ="The Brother"Sorry i left you as the lone ranger fighting the agar out crusade, but im to help a hand now
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| Quote ="The Brother"Over the last few seasons the rugby we play since Agar has introduced a ball carrying 13 instead of ball playing 13, the dire 1 man rugby 4 drives, 1 drop ff and a kick has got worse imo, this is no knee jerk reacation to yesterdays performance i have seen this coming for some while and believe we are in a false postion in the 1st place
However there is certain questions to be answered imo
Teams that bring players in on loan don't win things (fact), infact quite the opposite you look at leeds,saints,wigan they never bring players in infact quite the opposite theres go out on loan to other clubs to gain the experience before they then feel the benefit however there is not a season goes by that we don't have some youngster from leeds on loan
When was the last time Senior,Gidley,King were taken off other than injury by there coaches during a game for a tatical substution yet Agar felt the need to replace turner who was one of the better players yesterday with hall
Out of the 17 yesterday we had Whiting on the wing,Briscoe on the wing,Washy at 6,Berro at 7,Fitz at 13,horne at 9 when he came on(ffs) that is 6 players imo not playing in there correct postion were is the logic in that, regards horne been out since the 1st of May yet is thrown in to what is now the most demanding postion to play at dummy half by the clueless coach
Everyday Tom Briscoe trains and plays on the wing is a day wasted on his devolpment as a potential world class centre imo, again agar sort it out
Why have we fallen so far behind Wire???
Simple they had the balls to realise Lowes wasn't up to the job of head coach and went and got 1 of the best and now play a fantastic brand of rugby with a great work and team ethic we sadly lack
Rule and co will put the usual spin on it that we have improved on last season regards were we finish, doesn't wash with me were are so far behind the wires,wigans,giants etc with there attacking brand of rugby because they have top class coaches were we are just quite happy to go try and stay in arm wrestle grind a dour win out instead of trying to play a team off the park with free flowing quality entertaining rugby league
Agars subs baffle me giants game away Sam Moa just had 15 minutes rest at half time agar brings him off after 2 sets in the 2nd half,bradford brings manu off 8 minutes into the 2nnd half yet 3 mintues later sends him back on to replace luakai his interchanges are a joke, certain players also need to take a look at themselves with there effort and commitment on the pitch and also id like to know why the club captain hasn't been present at either of the last 2 matches sets a great example that, maybe if he can't be bothered we should take a leaf out of his his book and save our hard earned money
Yes agar has a 2 year deal, but in the long term he he will cost us more by staying and driving many fans away than the club dipping there hands in there pocket saying your not up to it and paying the guy who is out of his depth off and ruining more seasons with his p1ss poor coaching and boring predictable game plans'"
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| Quote ="The Brother"Think losing Mallo to you has a lot to do with it aswell, our fitness seems to have dropped since he joined hkr'"
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| Quote ="The Brother"Hasn't stopped him doing other things
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| Quote ="The Brother"Think losing Mallo to you has a lot to do with it aswell, our fitness seems to have dropped since he joined hkr'" That cant be true we were told his ideas were out of date and therefore unwanted.
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| Yes agar has a 2 year deal, but in the long term he he will cost us more by staying and driving many fans away than the club dipping there hands in there pocket saying your not up to it and paying the guy who is out of his depth off and ruining more seasons with his p1ss poor coaching and boring predictable game plans
Agree with everything said, if we could get back to playing the brand of rugby we did under Mcrae we could get another 2000 on every gate even at £10 a ticket its £20,000 a game that would pay for the best coach in the game over a season as business people you would think the board would react to this, lets do a wire and put agar to the tea room and bring in a quality coach.
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| I know it may seem to many fans that as soon as we lose a game it’s bash the coach time. But surely Saturday’s performance must have worried even Wolfie, the must ardent Agar fan.
It was blatantly obvious to me after 10-15mins that we would lose that game unless we changed our approach and upped our tempo. We allowed ourselves to be bossed and got sucked into playing the game at a pace dictated by the opposition like so many times over the past few seasons.
At HT the game was still in the balance and each coach had 10 mins to prepare their team for the second half and motivate their troops and adjust the game plan accordingly. It was therefore not surprising to me that we got mullered in the 2nd half.
Agar seemingly changed nothing as we were happy to continue to plod along which either indicates Agar has a problem recognising when we are playing s**t or has an inability to alter our tactics. Either way, the guy continues to prove to me on a regular basis that he is not up to the task of being head coach of Hull FC.
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| Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"Well I'm pleased with fourth although convinced it will be 6th or 7th by the end of the season, however for the first time in 50 odd years I am bored rigid with our rugby, it lacks tactics, flair and passion.'"
I'm finally glad people are starting to agree with me.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"I'm finally glad people are starting to agree with me.
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You can't blame people for not agreeing with your somewhat unorthodox views on just about everything other than this!
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| Quote ="Amadeo Avogadro"You can't blame people for not agreeing with your somewhat unorthodox views on just about everything other than this!
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I'm just too 'outside of the box' for some!!
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| Quote ="The Brother"Sorry i left you as the lone ranger fighting the agar out crusade, but im to help a hand now
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He has not been alone but very few seem to continue to voice opinions when we a scraping results.
Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"Well I'm pleased with fourth although convinced it will be 6th or 7th by the end of the season, however for the first time in 50 odd years I am bored rigid with our rugby, it lacks tactics, flair and passion.'"
Pretty much how i feel as well Wilf although not 50 years just 30
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| Quote ="t.m.t.b.f."Maybe ive been spoilt watching the Hull team of the 80's and other seasons when weve "had a go" and looked like a rugby team, like the run to the GF in 06 and Cup final in 05. Dont get me wrong, we were not the finished article by any means in those years but at least we played some enjoyable rugby at times. Nowadays its like watching a pair of slugs having a race across my garden wall.
Its not clutching at straws, weve been t for 4 seasons now.'"
Crikey,you have managed to depress me even more now.Thinking of the 80s.That was when I was persuaded to start following Hull. Knocker ,and co. No wonder I took it up.
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| I actually enjoyed watching us lose under Kear/Mcrae more then I do watching us win under Agar! So long as I see a game plan executed, some creative rugby or entertaining use of the ball and player commitment I accept defeat very easily. I can't believe how void of enjoyment I have been following Hull over the last 3 years. I actually feel shame an embarassment knowing what we do is broadcast for all to see.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"I'm finally glad people are starting to agree with me.
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Sad to say Dave that their are loads like you and Wilfie - Its really not about losing is it its about how bloody boring it is - Slow forwards - clueless backs - and a coach if he would come down from his seat in the stand and stand on the touch line and wave his arms - whistle at the non listeners - it would give me hope but no - I am almost gone!
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| Quote ="The Brother"Over the last few seasons the rugby we play since Agar has introduced a ball carrying 13 instead of ball playing 13, the dire 1 man rugby 4 drives, 1 drop ff and a kick has got worse imo, this is no knee jerk reacation to yesterdays performance i have seen this coming for some while and believe we are in a false postion in the 1st place
However there is certain questions to be answered imo
Teams that bring players in on loan don't win things (fact), infact quite the opposite you look at leeds,saints,wigan they never bring players in infact quite the opposite theres go out on loan to other clubs to gain the experience before they then feel the benefit however there is not a season goes by that we don't have some youngster from leeds on loan
When was the last time Senior,Gidley,King were taken off other than injury by there coaches during a game for a tatical substution yet Agar felt the need to replace turner who was one of the better players yesterday with hall
Out of the 17 yesterday we had Whiting on the wing,Briscoe on the wing,Washy at 6,Berro at 7,Fitz at 13,horne at 9 when he came on(ffs) that is 6 players imo not playing in there correct postion were is the logic in that, regards horne been out since the 1st of May yet is thrown in to what is now the most demanding postion to play at dummy half by the clueless coach
Everyday Tom Briscoe trains and plays on the wing is a day wasted on his devolpment as a potential world class centre imo, again agar sort it out
Why have we fallen so far behind Wire???
Simple they had the balls to realise Lowes wasn't up to the job of head coach and went and got 1 of the best and now play a fantastic brand of rugby with a great work and team ethic we sadly lack
Rule and co will put the usual spin on it that we have improved on last season regards were we finish, doesn't wash with me were are so far behind the wires,wigans,giants etc with there attacking brand of rugby because they have top class coaches were we are just quite happy to go try and stay in arm wrestle grind a dour win out instead of trying to play a team off the park with free flowing quality entertaining rugby league
Agars subs baffle me giants game away Sam Moa just had 15 minutes rest at half time agar brings him off after 2 sets in the 2nd half,bradford brings manu off 8 minutes into the 2nnd half yet 3 mintues later sends him back on to replace luakai his interchanges are a joke, certain players also need to take a look at themselves with there effort and commitment on the pitch and also id like to know why the club captain hasn't been present at either of the last 2 matches sets a great example that, maybe if he can't be bothered we should take a leaf out of his his book and save our hard earned money
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| Quote ="The Brother"Enlighten me to what you funny????'" It would be lost on you.
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What so funny? obviously you disagree? so you must be happy with the boring brand of rugby we play? I have never been as bored of watching Hull in over 30 years as I am now, you must be easily pleased!!
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| Quote ="westjba"What so funny? obviously you disagree? so you must be happy with the boring brand of rugby we play? I have never been as bored of watching Hull in over 30 years as I am now, you must be easily pleased!!'" Didn't quite say that did i now?
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Didn't quite say that did i now?'"
didnt say you did, just my inerpretation on your post and previous ones!!
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| Quote ="westjba"didnt say you did, just my inerpretation on your post and previous ones!!'" Which in particular?
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| Quote ="Tarquin Fuego"I have always been agar out from Day 1 - nice bloke - average coach at best.
WE NEED a world class coach simple as that. We have gone cheap on far too many options since Bunting left , [uapart from Brian Smith.[/u'"
the same coach,who on here,some tried claiming he nearly bankrupted the club
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