but can he get the best out of top players who you need to go to the next level?

We'd all take our position in 2005 compared to where we are now. There's only two pieces of silverware to play for and he brought us one of them, beating both Leeds & Saints along the way.

The next step for us was to win a grand final, but that wasn't going to happen overnight even when we won the challenge cup we overachieved with the squad we had. But that's the point I'd rather have a team performing above itself then the shower we've been served up for the past two years.

Kear wasn't good enough, it was Swain and Kearney that won the silverware, not him.

Any coach prepared to give players a lift to training because they'd had "a bit of a heavy night" has no place at my club.

He's so much better than Agar it's just not funny.

That is what is depressing, Kear is crap, and still 10 times the coach Agar is!

Actually, the general standard of coaching in this country is poor