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| Quote ="The Brother"I don't care what you beleive , whether it will show in the accounts or not
WE ARE NOWHERE NEAR TO SPENDING THE FULL SALARY CAP
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| Quote ="The Brother"I don't care what you beleive , whether it will show in the accounts or not
WE ARE NOWHERE NEAR TO SPENDING THE FULL SALARY CAP
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I never claimed we were, given the ins, outs, and no-shows. I'm just sceptical of the £0.5million figure being bandied about.
You bang on about people accepting everything the club says, and then expect us to believe an anonymous poster on an internet messageboard without question.
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| Quote ="Kosh"I never claimed we were, given the ins, outs, and no-shows. I'm just sceptical of the £0.5million figure being bandied about.
You bang on about people accepting everything the club says, and then expect us to believe an anonymous poster on an internet messageboard without question.
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Because i know im right, but hey let people have the wool pulled over there eye's by kath claiming we have spent full cap, she is a disgrace her own club and doesn't even know how much we spent on the cap no wonder were in the $hit
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| Quote ="The Brother"Because i know im right, but hey let people have the wool pulled over there eye's by kath claiming we have spent full cap, she is a disgrace her own club and doesn't even know how much we spent on the cap no wonder were in the $hit'"
Did we spend to full cap with Crocker?
On the pitch yip but not off it.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"Did we spend to full cap with Crocker?
On the pitch yip but not off it.'"
No even with Crocker we was over 300k below cap, having our pants down big time
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| Quote ="The Brother"Because i know im right, but hey let people have the wool pulled over there eye's by kath claiming we have spent full cap, she is a disgrace her own club and doesn't even know how much we spent on the cap no wonder were in the $hit'"
Nothing personal. I don't believe anyone without good reason, no matter how convinced they may be. I still have PMs swearing blind that Crocker had got his visa and was in the country, apparently from an unimpeachable source. Third-hand information is always iffy.
I fully expect that we started the season short of full cap due to the Carvell fiasco. Lauaki will have taken up some of that space, then we had Crocker's salary freed up and Byrne paid off. I wouldn't surprise me at all if we finish the season short of the cap due to the unholy mess our season has been.
I [iam[/i doubtful that we are currently £0.5 million short, and I am equally doubtful that we ever intended to be as short as we are.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Nothing personal. I don't believe anyone without good reason, no matter how convinced they may be. I still have PMs swearing blind that Crocker had got his visa and was in the country, apparently from an unimpeachable source. Third-hand information is always iffy.
I fully expect that we started the season short of full cap due to the Carvell fiasco. Lauaki will have taken up some of that space, then we had Crocker's salary freed up and Byrne paid off. I wouldn't surprise me at all if we finish the season short of the cap due to the unholy mess our season has been.
I [iam[/i doubtful that we are currently £0.5 million short, and I am equally doubtful that we ever intended to be as short as we are.'"
I don't have to justify this to anyone, i can't see Mr Rule coming out to admitting this that despite Kath making a total mockery of us by saying in her programme notes have spent full cap
These people running our club are blantaly lying to us and were guilible enough to let it happen and take there word for it
[size=200 I am telling you, we are nowhere near the cap[/size
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| All Honestly...who pi$$ing cares.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Nothing personal. I don't believe anyone without good reason, no matter how convinced they may be. I still have PMs swearing blind that Crocker had got his visa and was in the country, apparently from an unimpeachable source. Third-hand information is always iffy.
I fully expect that we started the season short of full cap due to the Carvell fiasco. Lauaki will have taken up some of that space, then we had Crocker's salary freed up and Byrne paid off. I wouldn't surprise me at all if we finish the season short of the cap due to the unholy mess our season has been.
I [iam[/i doubtful that we are currently £0.5 million short, and I am equally doubtful that we ever intended to be as short as we are.'"
I would have been aswell but its apparently true.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"All Honestly...who pi$$ing cares.'"
I do, when a club of our size is spending that far under cap then they are fleecing us , and we deserve better
what chance have we got of success and what chance has agar got tbh when he is operating from that far out of the cap
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| Quote ="The Brother"I do, when a club of our size is spending that far under cap then they are fleecing us , and we deserve better
what chance have we got of success and what chance has agar got tbh when he is operating from that far out of the cap'"
How do they fleece us....its our choice if we pay for passes and shirts isnt it.
We may be under but nobody may not have been available and tbh....Agar wouldnt have done ant better would he.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"How do they fleece us....its our choice if we pay for passes and shirts isnt it.
We may be under but nobody may not have been available and tbh....Agar wouldnt have done ant better would he.'"
Because a club of our size with money and income we generate should be spending as near to cap as possibile imo, instead they try to make us believe that we have and have the brass neck to tell us we have
We have a board that can't be truthful, a team that doesn't care apart from 1 or 2, and a coach that can't the best out of them
Great recipe Mr Rule.like you say on your hour of spin how can you cook a meal if you don't have the ingredients
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| Quote ="The Brother"[size=200I am telling you, we are nowhere near the cap[/size'"
We heard you the first 500 times TBH.
I'm not taking anybodies word for anything. I've already said, more than once, that it wouldn't surprise me if we were well below cap. I'm challenging the figure, not the idea.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"All Honestly...who pi$$ing cares.'"
I do. As a supporter, my first priority is that the club survives, which it wouldn't have done without the merger. Obviously, then, the strides made off the pitch in terms of a £1million improvement to the finances since 2004 have been vital.
My second priority is success on the pitch. If everyone else is at or close to the cap and we are short to that extent, as a customer I'm being short-changed as we're not giving ouselves the best chance of that. We're paying the same price as other SL clubs (in fact more than most, but that's OK given our facilities) but getting less of our money spent on the team. For a club with our numbers of supporters and levels of merchandise turnover that's not acceptable.
If this were true, what do people think our board's agenda is exactly? They won't be making much cash out of the business on an ongoing basis (stories of Kath's salary aside) as I understand interest on their loans is linked to base rate. They may be trying to improve the value of the business for onward sale, but surely they must recognise that 2 finishes outside the play-offs is eroding the value of the club as fast as profits are increasing it, so no one really benefits.
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| Quote ="Robbo4"I would have been aswell but its apparently true.'"
Which part? Or both?
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| Quote ="Kosh"Which part? Or both?'"
The figure quoted by the brother is correct.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"How do they fleece us....its our choice if we pay for passes and shirts isnt it.
We may be under but nobody may not have been available and tbh....Agar wouldnt have done ant better would he.'"
Not exactly a free market system tho is it. If they start charging £80 for shirts you aren't gonna just go and buy the cheaper rovers one are you. I'd definately rather complain and whinge about it.
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| Quote ="Kosh"We heard you the first 500 times TBH.
I'm not taking anybodies word for anything. I've already said, more than once, that it wouldn't surprise me if we were well below cap. I'm challenging the figure, not the idea.'"
My figure is correct, [size=200 half a million under cap[/size
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"I do. As a supporter, my first priority is that the club survives, which it wouldn't have done without the merger. Obviously, then, the strides made off the pitch in terms of a £1million improvement to the finances since 2004 have been vital.
My second priority is success on the pitch. If everyone else is at or close to the cap and we are short to that extent, as a customer I'm being short-changed as we're not giving ouselves the best chance of that. We're paying the same price as other SL clubs (in fact more than most, but that's OK given our facilities) but getting less of our money spent on the team. For a club with our numbers of supporters and levels of merchandise turnover that's not acceptable.'"
Well put.
This isn't an issue to be dismissed out of hand as the implications, if true, are enormously important.
At the same time I'm reluctant to run around shouting about the sky falling without at least some evidence. Although I accept that's going to be difficult to provide.
Quote ="Mrs Barista"If this were true, what do people think our board's agenda is exactly? They won't be making much cash out of the business on an ongoing basis (stories of Kath's salary aside) as I understand interest on their loans is linked to base rate. They may be trying to improve the value of the business for onward sale, but surely they must recognise that 2 finishes outside the play-offs is eroding the value of the club as fast as profits are increasing it, so no one really benefits.'"
I have no idea. If it were a deliberate policy rather than as a result of misfortune/incompetence with recruitment and retention then it's a frankly baffling one.
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| Quote ="The Brother"My figure is correct, [size=200half a million under cap[/size'"
You do realise that using big bold type adds no credence whatsoever to your argument, don't you?
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| IF it is true then the board need to tell us why this happend and why they lied to us.............Until we know the truth its a waste of time going on about it and trying to prove who has the biggest source.
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| Quote ="Robbo4"The figure quoted by the brother is correct.'"
Must admit I'm struggling to see how. I could see us being as much as £300k short but I'm not sure where the other £200k would come from. Some of the players that have left over the last two season must have been on astronomic salaries.
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| Who is your source then?
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| Quote ="Kosh"You do realise that using big bold type adds no credence whatsoever to your argument, don't you?
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[size=200 Yes[/size
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