Have you been drinking?





If he said that to a fan it would be completely unprofessional.

Also why hasn't he been truthful? He answered the question but didn't give details (that weren't asked for). I'm not his biggest fan but are people just literally looking for any excuse? Why aren't we just happy that we have a further quota spot available?

Cordoba would be non-federation trained as would Moa. Manu cannot become Federation trained until his current contract expires.

If we do have space for him (and I hope we have), I would get him signed up soon. I recon there will be quite a few other clubs in the waiting for him. His price tag will end up being more then we are prepared to pay.

Because people always want to know the how and why. We dont think we have a quota spot left, he does. We want to know how and why he thinks we do. We also have a distrust of the way that our club is ran as per the co*k ups of previous years so are naturally curious here to ensure they club are understanding the quota rules correctly.

Youre probably right. So wheres the middle ground then of being professional but telling us something? Is professionalism an easy excuse to be secretive sometimes?

Especially given the !dawning of a new age of communication" that was trotted out a few days ago.

And as i said yesterday, if FC agreed a new contract with him that expired 2009 rather than 2010 (ie 1 year shorter) it would legally overwrite his existing one. Meaning that when we then agree a new contract with him for 2010-2011 he could come off from the end of this season. Maybe this is what FC are doing.

Indeed.

Would the RFL see through that though? Sounds like a bit of a loophole to me

They will have made sure that teams can't do that, this is the dynamic, forward thinking RFL we are talking about.

It was 9PM last night, someone asked a question, which he took the time to answer and you think he should have spent even more time explaining the how and why when it wasn't even requested?

Surely people can see that it is very difficult to answer this question. Apart from the complexities of the quota system, there are people's careers potentially being discussed here. For all we know there is a quota spot open because Hull is letting a player go and that player either does not know themselves or is in discussions about early release. I am pretty sure that if he alluded to any such thing on this forum before it was settled then the hounds would be after him for a lack of integrity as well as everything else he is accused of.

He is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.

I wouldn't call not releasing confidential negotiations being secretive. Until something is finalised I think they have every right not to "announce" anything.

Its a big loophole but under contract law they cannot stop a player signing a shorter deal. Would be interesting to see if FC have tried this or are negotiations to try this currently.

He is MEANT to be a professional communicator.

Would that new contract be delivered by Father Christmas





What happened to your logical thinking?

From a customer service perspective to the fans there is a bit about always giving more information than is requested to stop further requests on the same issue. He has done exactly the right thing in replying and im not knocking him for that, but he hasnt given a correct and full enough reply for me.

Whats not logical about what ive written? (or do you just not understand it?)

I think he has answered in a professional manner to a private email that has subsequently been published on this forum.

If Manu can apply to come off quota during the last year of his contract then surly he can apply in November of this year, which would then mean we have an extra spot fof next year.

Or is my understanding wrong

You have a different idea of professional then.

Oh i understand it and its enormous implications for the game should it be allowed.

I think he cant officially come off it until that contract expires though according what ive read on here meaning that Nov 2010 would be when he can. If its not that way and he can come off when he applies and during his last year of a contract then that changes things drastically.

So let's agree to differ

Not a problem, my opinions differ with many on here, especially when it comes to the professionalism of the running of the club. It's down to experience, if you've only ever worked in one area/arena than you have different perceptions than if you've had more varied experiences, doesn't make either wrong or right.