Lets agree to disagree.

Hull did more than enough to win on Friday 4 tries to 3 would have made them deserved winners IMO, had Tickle not had an off day. I don't think they were particularly out muscled up front though I do think Agar could use his subs better.

Agree to disagree, but 4 tries to 3 wholly flatters us. Cas were so much better but were still average.

Agree that Agar made some "interesting" decisions about players. What we really needed was someone to come and get hold of the game, it's one of those games where a fit Paul King can make a difference, shame he played reserves.

Wasnt particularly good in the reserves either apparently.

thacks and Moa showed enough to warrant being there for me, we were just woeful controlling the ball.

I reckon so too, he needs to get fitter so we can get more gametime out of him.

Is he that unfit? Someone who was at the game said to me that he didn't seem to be blowing at all when taken off and could probably have had another stint towards the end of the game.

Agree 100%, it's Agars achilles heel by his own admission last season that he didn't get the hang of working the bench, seems he is still having problems there.
FWIW I thought against the Bulls we looked as though we could score in every set, whereas this week I thought our playmakers (Thorman & Berrigan) in the 2nd half where at a loss and looked alienated to each other. In the 1st half Houghton had Cas on their back foot, and not to utilise him in the 2nd was strange to say the least. Moa in 10 min spells does not give any respite to Yak/Dowes as he doesn't weaken the opposition defence for long sustained periods, he is minimally effective at the moment.

he better get the hang of working his bench sharpish then.

Its not rocket science either.

Dont start a young hooker, play him 20 and then not put him back on for the last 15 when the hooker on the pitch is shattered.
Stop trying to play your 2 starting props for over 60-70 mins each.
Stop playing Manu and tickle for 80 mins.

That just about does it!

That's how I saw it. The interchange seemed a bit premeditated but I accept that as a fan in the stand I might not have had all the facts to hand that Rich did.

I hate it when you get the impression that the changes are planned before the game, subs should be used to react to what is going on.

Planned or react, he did neither on Friday.

I have no issue with planned as he should generally know what stints his players are used to dealing with but agree that flexibility needs to be there to react.

He just did nothing on Friday, which is criminal!

Agree, its probably the first time ive needed to have a go at Agar too, hope i dont need to again.

Agree 100%

Been happy to be wrong about him thus far.

And the winner is..........

only 1 MAN TO BLAME JAMES RULE
HOW CAN YOU PLAY BRADFORD ON SUNDAY AND EXPECT TO RECOVER IN TIME FOR A FRIDAY GAME! WE LOOK NACKERED

I don't think thats the problem, we have done sunday-friday games for years and had no problems

Get back under your bridge.

I would have started Moa and rotated him with Thacks throughout the game. Other prop position i'd have given equal time to Dowes and Cusack as these two play way too much IMO

Wouldnt have had King or Maloney in as they needed to play reserves to get their boots dirty for a change. They will be getting their chance over busy easter period.

Possibly played Washy at 13 with Radders, Manu and Tickle rotating in second row.

Who I'd have doing tactical kicking in open play would be my major concern not fitness or interchanging. Our poor kicking game puts us under way too much pressure at end of our sets. For many years we've struggled in this department. Needs immediate attention IMO

Spot on. Our kicking game is garbage and is what is holding us back IMO. thorman was supposed to come in with a great kicking game and we've seen very little to suggest it's the case. We should be looking for a top class 7 with a world class kicking game for next season and get rid of thorman

Thormans never been famed for a long kicking game. His strength has always been attacking kicks near the opposition line.

And didn't we score from 2 on friday?

I thought Moa was a waste of a bench space, he isn't going to be in a position to do 20-30 minutes per game for quite a few weeks that's for sure and thinking that we can cope with a prop coming on for just 10 minutes is tactfully naive & puts massive pressure on the forwards. I thought Agar was supported by Sharp, are they both lacking in the tactical dept??
Moa did okay but considering he was only going to be spelled for 10 he should have been busting a gut in that time.

with regard to kicking gaining 10-15 metres from a penalty is pretty awful by any standards. yes Thorman is good with attacking kicks near the line but we have no-one who seems to be really capable of punting it 40-50 metres on a regular basis. What happened to spiral kicks to touch or for distance upfield. Do we need to look at employing a kicking coach from union?