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What a set of reactionary hypocrites you are...
Look at all teh slagging off of Hull City the Club, the fans and football in general you lot have done. Mr Duffen makes one off the cuff remark and you're blubbing like girls again.
You've no idea why the Internationals not on, but you choose to blame football. As ill-timed as the flippant remark was, that's all it was.
It's your own lack of self esteem that seems to be driving these 'poor 'ickle me' whinges on here.
You're guilty of far more in the past and presently doing far more to give a poor impression of the people of Hull than that one comment ever would.
Get over yourselves...'"
And out he comes again....the Syd Shephard of Hull $hitty
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| Quote ="Hull-Neutral"Duffen shouldn't be able to get away with such a sweeping, disdainful comment about RL fans!
Duffen, by his own admission, is ignorant of Rugby League. But I suspect that his naivety is now in danger of being replaced by outright hostility towards this 'rival' sport to his beloved football.
For all his faults, at least Adam Pearson was reasonably respectful towards the Rugby League community in this City, presumably because he was raised in the RL heartlands itself and understood its history.
For all his protestations to the contrary, Duffen COULD easily have secured an RL Test Match for the KC Stadium (as exemplified by Wigan) and quite frankly his attempts to shift the blame towards the RFL are pathetic (why should they be forced to wait until June for an answer??)!
[size=150I have it on very good authority [/size(and I genuinely mean that), that Paul Duffen 'enquired' to the Council last week just what it would take to remove Hull FC as joint tenants!
He was met with a firm rebuttal from council leaders (who by all accounts were fuming), who reiterated that Hull FC's lease agreement was water-tight for the next 20 years or so.
I am telling you, BEWARE PAUL DUFFEN!'"
No you don't
Firstly, why would the chairman of a company that rents the KC ask how to get a co-tenent out when it would result on one tenant having to cover all of the operating costs.
Its never happend. You are an neutral as sixth gear.
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What a set of reactionary hypocrites you are...
Look at all teh slagging off of Hull City the Club, the fans and football in general you lot have done. Mr Duffen makes one off the cuff remark and you're blubbing like girls again.
You've no idea why the Internationals not on, but you choose to blame football. As ill-timed as the flippant remark was, that's all it was.
It's your own lack of self esteem that seems to be driving these 'poor 'ickle me' whinges on here.
You're guilty of far more in the past and presently doing far more to give a poor impression of the people of Hull than that one comment ever would.
Get over yourselves...'" So why have internationals in the past been played that time of the year with no problems then?.Has for Mr Duffin he has confessed about being ignorant to Rugby League so he should keep his opinions to his self and keep his big mouth shut, joke or no joke because no one is laughing at this side of the fence.
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What a set of reactionary hypocrites you are...'"
We're not on the forum of another sport rushing to defend our club from imagined slights, pal.
Quote ="My Uncle Harry"Get over yourselves...'"
The most ironic advice ever offered on RLFans.
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What a set of reactionary hypocrites you are...
Look at all teh slagging off of Hull City the Club, the fans and football in general you lot have done. Mr Duffen makes one off the cuff remark and you're blubbing like girls again.
You've no idea why the Internationals not on, but you choose to blame football. As ill-timed as the flippant remark was, that's all it was.
It's your own lack of self esteem that seems to be driving these 'poor 'ickle me' whinges on here.
You're guilty of far more in the past and presently doing far more to give a poor impression of the people of Hull than that one comment ever would.
Get over yourselves...'"
Whatever Mr Duffen thinks in private is his business, but for a man in his public position, he shouldn't be able to get away with such a sweeping, defamatory remark made 'on the record'.
Would a local councillor walk away professionally unscathed if he publically insulted all residents of a certain council estate for example?
Many Politicians have walked for less.
Lets not forget that Glenn Hoddle lost his job for his views on a certain sector of the population which were made OFF THE RECORD and, in all probability, were grossly misinterpreted!
Tongue-in-cheek or not (and I'm certainly not convinced they were), Duffen's comments were highly defamatory and he shouldn't be able to walk away from this with his reputation intact.
At the very least, he should be made to apologise.
Does anyone have his e-mail adress?
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"No you don't
Firstly, why would the chairman of a company that rents the KC ask how to get a co-tenent out when it would result on one tenant having to cover all of the operating costs.
Its never happend. You are an neutral as sixth gear.'"
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| Quote ="My Uncle Harry"icon_eek.gif
What a set of reactionary hypocrites you are...
Look at all teh slagging off of Hull City the Club, the fans and football in general you lot have done. Mr Duffen makes one off the cuff remark and you're blubbing like girls again.
You've no idea why the Internationals not on, but you choose to blame football. As ill-timed as the flippant remark was, that's all it was.
It's your own lack of self esteem that seems to be driving these 'poor 'ickle me' whinges on here.
You're guilty of far more in the past and presently doing far more to give a poor impression of the people of Hull than that one comment ever would.
Get over yourselves...'"
that will be your lot wheny ou are sent crashing back to the championship, lets see who winges then,
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| Quote ="fc baldy"And out he comes again....the Syd Shephard of Hull $hitty'"
exactly right, bet its him who slags off rugby in another guise in the daily wail
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At the very least, he should be made to apologise.
Does anyone have his e-mail adress?'"
info@smc-hull.co.uk (FAO Paul Duffen)
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At the very least, he should be made to apologise.
Does anyone have his e-mail adress?'"
info@smc-hull.co.uk (FAO Paul Duffen)
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| Could always forward him this from the smc website and copy it to Morgan
OWNERSHIP
The Stadium is owned by the Hull City Council and managed by the Stadium Management Company (SMC) who hold a 50 year lease.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Anyone else think this may have just been him trying to play it down with a bit of humour that people then grab onto as being a dig, we are afterall fairly sensitive to people knocking our game a lot of the time arent we.'"
I would tend to agrea with this.. To be fair I thought he talked sensibly about the football but listening to other quips he made just didnt really have a very good sense of humour!
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| Quote ="Hull-Neutral"Duffen shouldn't be able to get away with such a sweeping, disdainful comment about RL fans!
Duffen, by his own admission, is ignorant of Rugby League. But I suspect that his naivety is now in danger of being replaced by outright hostility towards this 'rival' sport to his beloved football.
For all his faults, at least Adam Pearson was reasonably respectful towards the Rugby League community in this City, presumably because he was raised in the RL heartlands itself and understood its history.
For all his protestations to the contrary, Duffen COULD easily have secured an RL Test Match for the KC Stadium (as exemplified by Wigan) and quite frankly his attempts to shift the blame towards the RFL are pathetic (why should they be forced to wait until June for an answer??)!
I have it on very good authority (and I genuinely mean that), that Paul Duffen 'enquired' to the Council last week just what it would take to remove Hull FC as joint tenants!
He was met with a firm rebuttal from council leaders (who by all accounts were fuming), who reiterated that Hull FC's lease agreement was water-tight for the next 20 years or so.
I am telling you, BEWARE PAUL DUFFEN!'"
Knowing the folks at the Council who would have been asked that question very well, I think that it highly unlikely it was asked in fact I don't believe it was. As has been said many times the Rugby team has equal rights to use the Stadium no one has any sort of preference and will not have for at least another 20 years. Then the two contracts are up for review and renegotiation. The contract and agreement is water tight!
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| Quote ="Pookie"I would tend to agrea with this.. To be fair I thought he talked sensibly about the football but listening to other quips he made just didnt really have a very good sense of humour!'"
Ive always like the bloke to be honest, think this should just be taken with a pinch of salt.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Ive always like the bloke to be honest, think this should just be taken with a pinch of salt.'"
Same here tbh. Always had a lot of time for him and tending to take his comment as tongue in cheek.
BUT we deserve to know the full reasons WHY he couldn't agree to the RL Test at the KC.
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| He would feel very safe in an audience 100% Football, although said tongue in cheek it was a very laddish and juvenile thing to say by a man who normally comes across with a fair share of intelligence, until now.
There is no way he would have said that in front of a RL or indeed a mixed sport audience, he would have been lynched on the spot, and rightly so.
The BBC sports editor should ask Mr Duffen for outright apology for offending it's RL listeners.
I honestly think that the man is so out of touch with this City he is an insult to it, the sooner the council get rid of him the better.
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| Quote ="davey37"
BUT we deserve to know the full reasons WHY he couldn't agree to the RL Test at the KC.'"
Would be interested to know but not too bothered TBH.
I would guess it will be something like 'with both teams having played lots of football and rugby on the pitch it was deemed in the best interest of the surface to not have an additional game'
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| I have sent the following email to Paul Duffen at SMC......................
Dear Mr Duffen,
I am writing to express my disappointment regarding a couple of your recent actions over the last few days.
My first point is the decision not to allow the upcoming England International Rugby League test matches to be held at the KC stadium. As you may or may not be aware we have had these games played in Hull four times over the last six years or so and this year you have deprived the whole community a chance to support their national side in our own city.
The decision, i believe, is due to a possible clash of fixtures with Hull City AFC and that you asked the RFL to wait until June/July, when the fixtures for the new season are released, before a decision would be made.
The stadium itself was built with council money and is therefor owned by all of the people of Hull and the UK, Not just you!
Other then the financial gain to the SMC, it is also an excellent opportunity for local businesses to benefit from the extra fans from many other areas of the country.
When the story broke in the Hull Daily Mail on 21st February, you were 'unavailable for comment', why have you since not given an acceptable reason on how and why this decision was made?. Especially as you seem to be in the media every other day commenting on Hull City and always 'available' then.
My second point is your latest statement regarding 'Rugby league fans'. At a recent Hull City questions and answer session you were asked by Radio Humberside about complaints regarding the above mentioned test match. Your reply as to whether you had received many complaints from rugby league fans was "no, i didn't even know they could write". Now, I'm sure this comment may have been a little tongue in cheek but when you've already placed yourself on many people's bad side regarding their sport you shouldn't be making such statements in which you imply that people who support rugby league are of lower intelligence.
Maybe if you showed a higher level of intelligence by not making the two above decisions (particularly the second) you would not be reading this, and many others I'm sure, email of complaint.
We can read and, obviously, we can also write.
Finally, after not only creating a problem and annoying a whole community of fans, I speak for all rugby league fans and demand a public apology through all areas of the media as soon as possible.
Let's hope he does something about it !!!
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| He's a man under pressure trying to curry favour with his audience. Forget it, move on and laugh when they're back in the football league next season and he's kicking himself for turning down a full house at the KC when city are struggling to attract 15k
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"He's a man under pressure trying to curry favour with his audience. Forget it, move on and laugh when they're back in the football league next season and he's kicking himself for turning down a full house at the KC when city are struggling to attract 15k'"
Well I suppose it deflects some attention from the Bullard 'gamble'!
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| Quote ="knocker norton"Well I suppose it deflects some attention from the Bullard 'gamble'!
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How to cover up the Bullard co*kup, i know, i'll inadvertantly slag RL off in a RL town!
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| Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"Knowing the folks at the Council who would have been asked that question very well, I think that it highly unlikely it was asked in fact I don't believe it was. As has been said many times the Rugby team has equal rights to use the Stadium no one has any sort of preference and will not have for at least another 20 years. Then the two contracts are up for review and renegotiation. The contract and agreement is water tight!'"
I'd love to see them chuck us out however impossible it seems. Let's see how they pay the KC's upkeep in the Championship, and then Div one as these newly found ex Man Utd and Liverpool fans crawl back into the woodwork.
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| Quote ="Raggytash"I'd love to see them chuck us out however impossible it seems. Let's see how they pay the KC's upkeep in the Championship, and then Div one as these newly found ex Man Utd and Liverpool fans crawl back into the woodwork.'"
just the small problem of where we play though.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"just the small problem of where we play though.'"
I don't mind, I'd watch us play on the banks of the Humber rather than contribute financial support towards a Premiership outfit that has priority over all decisions. We need some kind of parity. There would be a lot less resentment if we had equality. It would also benefit them to keep us and R.L fans in general happy.
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| Lets not also forget one of the reasons for the building of the stadium was to bring top groups etc to the city. Who put a stop to that. Yes Mr Duffen.
The tail is wagging the dog here and the Council need to find a way of establishing control of the facility.
Always said that the SMC should be totally independant from the two sporting clubs and it was a big mistake to link the SMC so closely to The football club.
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| Quote ="Raggytash"I don't mind, I'd watch us play on the banks of the Humber rather than contribute financial support towards a Premiership outfit that has priority over all decisions. We need some kind of parity. There would be a lot less resentment if we had equality. It would also benefit them to keep us and R.L fans in general happy.'"
Likewise, if we can travel to Craven park to watch our team then we'll go anywhere...
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