I cant think of many backs that dont perform better when the dry grounds return, can you?

He didn't get enough ball last night imo and i hope that was a one off but he did come inside looking for it and got a couple of scoots in.
His defence apart from that one error was superb, he tackles well above his weight.
late in the game he just seemed to disappear and Manu was in his spot,i looked and then i saw him out on the left wing


Showed good team spirit by coming right across the pitch to see how Byrne was after he was winded.

I hope Calders can produce the sort of form for you guys that he showed at Leeds.

We never got to see the best of him here due to a couple of reasons imo, first of all I don't think Nobby really rated him and then he never really got the service he got at Leeds.

Our play under Nobby is pretty basic rugby and even the likes of Brett Dallas would have struggled with the style we play.

Good luck to Calders.



PS - When the opposing kicker kicks a high ball to his wing, your hearts will go in your mouths. Trust me

Any try coming off of the back of a kick to Richards should only be worth 2 points

Wests wouldn't have even made the 8 in 2005 if that was the case.

Correct but calderwood would have a higher wet to dry ratio (just made that up) than the average back

I thought it was a bit odd 'Alderwoo' not clapping the fans with the rest of the team after the match. I've never been a big fan of Calderwood but he plays for us now so I must warm to him. Thought he did well whilst being outplayed by a local youngster

I thought that too but then again, he was limping very slightly and I think the cramp he got near the end of the game was still hurting him. I think he just wanted to get to the dressing room to get it sorted.

Is there a winger who reads a game better than him, whenever there was a break he was there to effect the tackle. If we can get the ball to him in space more often he is going to be a great signing. No negatives from me tonight as I cant see anyone else would have stopped Richards scoring as I thought the kick was better than inch perfect and Richards arrived at the exact moment the ball did to snatch it from his grasp

I know he didnt.

A week before that game and that right centre spot could have gone to one of threee players and may still change game by game.

So during training for the week G Horne wasnt running through the moves in that position then? I beg to differ.

You go stalker boy.

My post reads a week before not days before.

My point is that Yeaman basically has the left Centre spot sewn up. The right Centre spot will probably change between three or four players throughout the season possibly making it harder for Calderwood to forge a relationship with his Centre.

nope, why do i need to go to know these things?

Agree though that its likely that someone else will play in that position this season. No one will get a chance though while Horne is playing like he is.

Interesting to see whether Briscoe gets given the chance when Raynor comes back.

Its a nice situation to be in. 4 or 5 players could play right centre and I am sure whoever has the position knows that. Competition for places is a strength and I would go so far as saying no player is nailed on for any position if performance doesnt warrant it.

Yup. The risk as has been highlighted is that relationships betweens players can be stifled with a lack of understanding but i'd rather we had the form players in the 17.

Personally I think 4 or 5 players could play either Centre spot but we know Yeamans a shoe in for the left spot.

Whilst Yeamans defence is the most solid IMO he can sometimes be lazy in attack only offering to work when the ball comes to him instead of running a line and creating an option.

I'd like to see his spot under pressure a bit more.

Its been said in the media that no ones spot is safe but even through bad performances we've never seen evidence of this.

For me Briscoe isn't a Winger. He's had first team experience now and knows what its all about and i'd like to see him go back to Under21's and develope himself as a Centre until the time is right.

Hall for me is more suited to cover the Wing spot. He's a similar player to the likes of Pat Richards, Hicks and in the future possible even King, tall and pacey.

For now G.Horne is doing a good job at Centre but i'd still like to see him move into the pack at some point.

some good points there mate,but agar sees briscoe as a winger and he feels that the lad is quite adequate to play in raynors boots,not sure what will happen when raynor is fit but who knows if briscoe keeps up the good form whats to say raynor will get back in the team.

Eh? Which stand was you in? Calderwood went across to the Wigan fans first who gave him a good acknowledgement. He then walked in front of the East stand from North to South waving, clapping and grinning his head off, to meet the rest of the team on their way over to the middle of East.

He then shook hands and exchanged back slaps with most of the team before walking around to South and West with them.

Of all the Hull players he gave the most to the crowd after the match and seemed incredibly pleased to be here. He made mistakes last night but my overriding impression of him last night was effort in the last 20 minutes to try and score one over against the Pies.

Hope it continues

You saw something I didn't then!!! I was in South and he got to us far quicker than the rest of the lads and didn't hang around for them while they were in my eyesight.

Ah. I'm in middle of East and there was definitely lots of comraderie with the rest of the team when he met them walking up. I thought he was limping too so maybe he did head back to the tunnel after that.

Either way, he seemed happy to play to the East stand and was grinning like a loon

He probably caught up with the lads after clapping the Wigan fans around you then headed to us quicker...another show of his speed!!!

He's gonna be good





[size=75Envy those Wigan lasses with Amos instead to look at, though.[/size

Calderwood was as appreciative as the rest of the players at the end of the game, although I never understand why this is always an issue given that most fans head for the exit before the players come over.

You do know where Briscoe is from don't you as he isn't local unless you are from West Yorkshire

Oh yes!!!