I thought the young lad charles was exceptional,to come on when the team was getting drubbed and perform as well as he did,was terrific and if mcintosh didnt try to showboat he would have made a try with a clever kick.Is balmforth injured.?

Well we had Brown at 9 and Charles in the halves last week.

I wouldn't say that was the change in performance. I just thought we defended better and went forward with more purpous in the second half

If they is one shining light, I think Charles has serious potential.

I don't think so. They don't always tell us though.

He played and scored for the Reserves last week but there's no game this weekend.

Only for 15 minutes, score was 10-6 then Houghton came on at hooker.

Celebrate your win and ascendancy. Don't damn us with faint praise.

The City is yours for the foreseeable future. Revel in it as history shows it will not last forever.

Shows how poor we are, when Rovers fans can't be bothered to take the mick.

Ese'ese was a lot to handle in the 2nd half. He starting finding his feet. Pele also showed glimpses with a couple of big runs towards the end. Also Sao starting causing them a lot of problems in the 2nd half. Those lads need to keep that 2nd half performance up and not fall back into lazy, ill disciplined ways.

Shows how poor we are when I'm the one who's actually planning on doing the mick taking out of my Rovers mates.

"Couldn't even put 50 on us"
"Worst team we've played the last 3 weeks"
"Worst goal kicker in the league"

I also read somewhere that they've not won a trophy since 1985.

Que on rack at half time. The only thing Rovers players were discussing was where should we go for tonights p#ss up celebration.

Que on rack at half time. The only thing Rovers players were discussing was where should we go for tonights p#ss up celebration.

No one seems to be mentioning it but the leveller was the wind. In the first half they had it and dominated, in the second we had it and battled.

Had Martin pouched the interception and McIntosh not fumble his late chance we make it look like a game, somehow.

Just shows how we capitulated when thing were against us in first half. In second we actually managed to have a few chances.

Frustrates me when there’s a loose ball we try to score from it and end up losing it rather than dropping on it and securing possession

The first half was woeful. Rovers did play some good rugby with the wind at their backs but we just never gave ourselves a chance. We looked laboured and disorganised and nothing went well at all.

The second half however did show us a way that we might be able to be more competitive. Charles looks very talented, and Brown looks a totally different player at 9. I also thought Ese'ese played pretty well again and Pele, if he can keep his discipline, does have something about him. If Smith can get over his obsession with always picking Houghton, and if he puts trust in Charles, I do think we can play some better rugby and win a few games. I'm not sure he will though, that's the problem.

Thank you for a balanced view. Charles was ordinary at Huddersfield but played behind some go forward today. People going on about Houghton. His scoots and defence are vital but I like brown at hooker. Can only guess why Balmforth isnt selected. Sorry about some replies from my fellow Hull fans. Thought Rovers have potential and even we have the shoots of recovery but we are way behind you guys

I said earlier in the week that we should leave Houghton out altogether, Litten to full back whilst Walker is out, Hoy to six and Charles on the bench.
We went backwards at Huddersfield when Houghton came on and today played better when Houghton went off.
Charles was a breath of fresh air but Smith is bang average at halfback so we have to give Charles/Hoy a run at halfback so we can inject some zip and speed and hopefully provide some better last tackle options.
At least then we can have two nines playing nine
Hopefully Smith will be on his way before next week so lets hope we have someone sensible picking the team rather than the out of touch dogmatic tinkering Tony

Is balmforth injured.?[/

Only in tinkering Tonys head

Houghton has popped a rib according to Tony, so he'll be missing for a bit you'd think.
Ashworth has also injured his thumb which is a blow as he has been good.
Staveley has a meniscus problem and will be missing for anything from 2-6 weeks.

Well, it wasn't quite the one-way annihilation I was anticipating earlier in the week (although at half-time I was expecting it to end at 70 plus!).

First half was simply dreadful, all the usual faults and bad traits we have become so used to, especially in recent weeks.

They at least showed a modicum of energy and fight in the second half to avoid an afternoon of total humiliation, but overall still way below what we would expect from a Hull Fc team in a derby game. We still created very little in the way of genuine scoring chances.

Thought rovers seemed to struggle to get restarted after the break, as if the first forty minutes had been so easy for them they didn't need to bother in the second half. They will have to be better than that if they are to achieve their aim of completing the treble this year!!

Ok if you want to be like that,another fine performance from agent smith and gene.Feel better now.?

Last week only until Smith brought Houghton on then we really went backwards
Watch the game

No coincidence when Houghton went off injured today we had a better second half as you say

Bugger, bugger, bugger. Was really looking forward to singing “28 nil and you fooked it up” ne’er mind eh.

Yes, agree with the above.

There's 21 games left in the season and we have, effectively, nothing material to play for. We can't be relegated, and we clearly won't be participating in the play-offs, so we may as well use the remaining games to look at what is available at the club.

Hoy has looked better at 6, and the team as a whole have as well. Brown is clearly a 9 and we are likely to get twice the effect out of him if used in his best position.

In light of the fact we don't have a 7, then this now seems an opportunity to give Charles a run of games and let him (hopefully) develop into someone decent. He looks like he has the potential to be so, but this doesn't mean we should flog him from now until September, give him a run and use accordingly. Morgan Smith is a trier, but nowhere near the quality we would need to even become a mid-table side, let alone one with top-four ambitions!

The only problem with your analysis above surrounds the coach. I honestly don't believe he is going anywhere anytime soon. I think we are stuck with him for the foreseeable future. Don't think he is going to be sacked or resign which means that none of the above may actually come to pass!!

Asworth under goes a thumb op this week to repair it, out for 6 weeks..

We ought to tell Charles he’s starting and playing for the next two months. It will give some confidence to develop his game, not worrying about being dropped. Also in that time, we have 3 blank weekends with the Challenge Cup, so it’s not like he’s being flogged.

We might as well start looking forward, play and develop the players who are going to be here next season, supplemented with players playing in their correct positions of fitness allows.

The fans will also support you and encourage youngsters coming through.

Small signs of our forwards capable of providing a platform. We are not going to change overnight, but let’s stopped getting thrashed and start a journey going forward.

Also, if there is actually a ‘Project’, it would help if the club share it with the fans, then it might give us the option to get on board. Better than this ongoing frustration.