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| Quote ="easthull fc fan"Good post, no fans that pay money deserve to see professional sportsmen play like that, I can take getting beat it's part of the game but like you say it's the manner of the performance/defeat. It just stinks!'"
I'm afraid that must be down to the coach whichever way you look at it.
I said pre the leeds league game he should have rested key players and taken a defeat. Had he done that it's unlikely we'd have lost tonight
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| Quote ="WIZEB"Armchair pundits out again as we make our way back up the M62.'"
Fair point mate although I did watch the game. What was the post match reaction like at the ground - was anyone left at the end ?
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| I watched it on sky, so what was your opinion ? I know sometimes things look different when you there, but tonight cant see what
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| Quote ="WIZEB"Armchair pundits out again as we make our way back up the M62.'"
fair enough, picture quality wasn't great, were we actually very unlucky? Were the FC fans at the end fulsome in their applause and commiserations?
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| Quote ="WIZEB"Armchair pundits out again as we make our way back up the M62.'"
Are we not allowed to comment if we only watched it on Sky.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"I'm afraid that must be down to the coach whichever way you look at it.
I said pre the leeds league game he should have rested key players and taken a defeat. Had he done that it's unlikely we'd have lost tonight'"
It is mate, he can only hand out the shirts & instructions, it is then upto the players to play well in them & follow these instructions, however he can change the style or personnel, so blame all round IMHO. But we have got it right before so what's the thing or things going wrong?
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| Quote ="WIZEB"Armchair pundits out again as we make our way back up the M62.'"
Does your post mean only fans who went to the game can make a comment?
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| Quote ="easthull fc fan"It is mate, he can only hand out the shirts & instructions, it is then upto the players to play well in them & follow these instructions, however he can change the style or personnel, so blame all round IMHO. But we have got it right before so what's the thing or things going wrong?'"
The players aren't blameless but the garbage we've served up in the last 4 games has to be down to poor mindset and preparation which the coach is responsible for.
I was hoping we'd turned a corner but I'm afraid radford is out of his depth
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| Quote ="HullFC50"Does your post mean only fans who went to the game can make a comment?'"
If that's the case it's going to be quiet on here come Sunday night lol
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| Quote ="Hessle Roader"Are we not allowed to comment if we only watched it on Sky.'"
The board will be quiet then as only 3500 there so doubt there was our usual travelling army
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| Anyone started a petition yet?
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"The players aren't blameless but the garbage we've served up in the last 4 games has to be down to poor mindset and preparation which the coach is responsible for.
I was hoping we'd turned a corner but I'm afraid radford is out of his depth'"
Such a shame really we know we can't win every game & the competition is very tight but that tonight is very hard to take in. Poor decision making coaching & playing I just don't see any easy way out, I hope I'm proved wrong & we start to play & get it right but it's going to take something extraordinary & I don think we have it in us. Very hard pill to swallow.
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| Quote ="El Masa Loco"I wasn't sure Bout the new format and the split for the bottom teams but it does seem that all games are important and now at this stage " season defining" Under the old system we would be coasting now. We'd be safe and this game wouldn't matter. Now we need to win at least two o the next four .
We should do it short turn around or not. Wakefield are very poor. The signings they've made are poor players in reality. Their new coach is old and past it although he was great for us. Come on lads rip them a new one. I'd prefer that this post does not come back to haunt me.'"
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| That is now the 7th time this season we have not managed to score in a half (and twice in a week). I'm going to nominate this one as comfortably the most embarrassing, with it being against emphatically the worst defence in SL (more than 250 points or 50% more conceded than the nearest competitor). In fact the actual maths of it are that Wakey average more than 20 points conceded per 40 minutes, and we managed 0 in 60.
Now there can be all sorts of mitigating factors, but I'm finding it hard not to accept that that is simply a damning but fair statistic that merely brings home the cold, hard truth of just how abysmal our attack is.
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| He's a prospecct that Miller.
I counted 7 (seven) attempted tackles and still he scored.
Rate the coach too.
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| Quote ="easthull fc fan"Such a shame really we know we can't win every game & the competition is very tight but that tonight is very hard to take in. Poor decision making coaching & playing I just don't see any easy way out, I hope I'm proved wrong & we start to play & get it right but it's going to take something extraordinary & I don think we have it in us. Very hard pill to swallow.
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The fact you are coming out with this is a massive surprise. You have backed Radford in most things, but the tone of your posts tonight suggest you are really struggling to find anything left to be positive about.
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| Quote ="Doom&Gloom Merchant"Anyone started a petition yet?'"
DAB, you must have missed the first one
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| Quote ="easthull fc fan"Good post, no fans that pay money deserve to see professional sportsmen play like that, I can take getting beat it's part of the game but like you say it's the manner of the performance/defeat. It just stinks!'"
Don't they pay good money for a professional coach aswell ?
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| Quote ="WIZEB"Armchair pundits out again as we make our way back up the M62.'"
So it looked a better performance if you where there,than it did on sky ?
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"Quote ="Doom&Gloom Merchant"Anyone started a petition yet?'" <br abp="953">DAB, you must have missed the first one
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That Up the cream link is worth a read!
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| Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"Don't come on here much these days but have to say that's a good resume of the game from Dan and the guys at Up the Cream and quite frankly its about time that if they are to portray an accurate picture for those fans who can't go to games then the Daily Mail should reflect more the thoughts of the supporters who were there and use adjectives like Catastrophic woeful and dross more often. Because believe me, that's what it was and it was without doubt a new low in a season that has featured several and seen the Club we love go backwards.
One or two of us have talked about relegation for weeks now and been poo pooed by the majority of fans, but enduring that last night you can see the possibility looming large. a lot of people leaving the game have quite simply had it! We started well before mistakes forced balls and bad decision making spread through the team like an infectious disease. Once that starts with Hull FC there is no going back and how our coach can say that it was an easy half time talk to give is hard to comprehend. He can't have been seeing what we were because ten minutes after our third try we all knew that another was highly unlikely as the writing was already on the wall against a very poor Wakefield team. Our coaching team and senior players seem incapable of action during a game or at half time, that can reverse that trend and see us wrestle back the momentum in these games. When Wakefield went two points up it was all over!
In the final 10 minutes the only conversation around me from long suffering fans who like me just go and hope these days, and who just 'don't say this sort of stuff' was "If our Coach is a man of his word and has any integrity then he would walk". That's for another day but perhaps he and a few of our staff should have been stood there with us lot in the stands reflecting on another £100 poured down the drain on the dream that turned into another blooming nightmare and being Taunted by chants like "16-0 and you f*cked it up" from a group of fans who hadn't seen victory since the second game of the season. Wakefield were as poor a team as we have met all season, we might paper over a few cracks on Sunday, but the old adage top eight, your having a laugh is very pertinent this morning.'"
can't argue with any of that.
If Pearson or Radford see anything other then as a club we are well and truly up Papp creek without a paddle.
Wakefield were so poor but Radford and his charges still found a way of throwing away a win yet again with the same mistakes and the vast majority unforced so to say there was effort is an insult. I would put that display after the first 20mins as one of the worst ever by a professional Hull FC side and these are totally unacceptable.
Perhaps Radford should actually listen to his own interviews as he already sounded beaten before the game which is indicative of the teams performances and I believe is a reason he never seems to have players mentally prepared.
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| Not trolling here but apart from the first 16 minutes how were Wakefield really poor last night?
If you want to include 12 of the last 16 games prior to this I'd agree that Wakefield have been awful bu not last night when they were good in both attack and defence and won the game on merit!
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| Quote ="Chris71"Perhaps Radford should actually listen to his own interviews as he already sounded beaten before the game which is indicative of the teams performances and I believe is a reason he never seems to have players mentally prepared.'"
I was horrified when I heard him say in his post-match interview 'I thought that if we won it would only be by 1 or 2 points.' was that really the level of hope/expectancy we had going into that game?
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| If thats the sort of belief he has in his own team and the level expected of the players then there is little wonder we're in the state we are.
Time to go Radders.
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| I actually think that performance was on par with the big Huddesfield defeat in the playoffs.
It was that shocking.
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