They also have a new coach joining who I would expect to make them more of a competitive side. Although consigned to the middle 8 I expect he will want them to start building some form for when the middle 8's start.

They may well be more competitive but we are supposed to be improving too and I will still be very disappointed if we don't beat them twice. If we have any ambition we should be putting teams like them to bed. We have some tough matches coming up and really need to win these two.

No one disputes that but with a new coach and some new players they'll be a tougher ask. Don't forget they won at cas and bummed the dobbins in their first 2 games

And they've gone downhill since their first two games. Sure they can only improve and I wish we'd played them twice already and had the points in the bag but our two matches against them really are must win games if we want to make the 8.

I know and I agree but the games aren't the gimme that some seem to believe they are

They are games we should be winning I agree, i was pointing out that I don't think they will be the walkover people are expecting.

I think this is the major flaw in the new system. Highly likely that the teams in 7th / 8th will have no chance of making the top four. Would have been better to have retained the 8 team play off series.

If the season continues as it is, it will be very tight, if we win our game in hand, then we would be 2 points off 4th, that would mean 2 points separating 4th and 8th, the top 3 are pretty much secure, but there could be a real battle for 4th spot.

Salford are getting bodies back. They've named Dobson, Tasi, Hauraki, Hood and Tomkins in their squad this week as well as well as having Chase, Sau and Paterson back recently. They could mount a late challenge.

Bad result for us, but sensational from Cas at the end.

Cracking finish to a game wasn't it .

Brilliant. Two fantastic results for them, thoroughly deserved.

Seems Radford wants to go for the power play against Leeds but they are fast. Can't see a win to be honest. It's OK been powerful and defensive but you need speed and certainly can't afford 3 forwards taking off a three same time like he did last week. I can also see us getting a few injuries. Hope I'm wrong.

Saints handed it to them on a plate, and they got lucky with Roby dropping the ball at the base of the scrum to gift them the points.

If Saints had played that badly against us we'd have beat them as well.

How do possibly know that! If, If, If. Rubbish

Well clearly a Hull fan would hope otherwise than to get "a few injuries". Let's hope your prediction in this is as wide of the mark as our 40 point hammering by Warrington you forecast.

True - ref kept them 10 back as well which hindered them a bit. They were pretty rough in the second half to say the least. Well done to Cas.

Yes the buggers. I've wanted them to lose the last two to help our cause and finished up applauding them for great performances.

Because I watched both games and can make an informed opinion based on what I see without a bias that makes me want to take the most negative possible view on everything to do with the club.

Understandable that this would be beyond your comprehension.

A couple of fancy sentences doesn't make you right, its still a stupid comment. Its impossible to know if we'd of beaten saints if they played like they did last. Not been negative about hull at all. But more giving Cas some credit for beating the top of the table side, who had a very strong team. Nothing to comprehend, your talking Sh**t

I think Cas deserved it. Thought they played well. Not often I don't want them to win lol but it was well deserved. I don't think Saints looked that good

Will Jacob Miller be able to play against us ?

You hope so.

Why wouldnt he?

i hope he plays full back, some towering bombs from abdul will have him pooping bricks lol