haha, OK

I got told he wanted 50k.

can you or any other explain to me exactly what agar is supposed to coach into our forwards to help us go forward? We have a plodding pack, something agar is addressing! Blinkered I am not, but I'm also not unreasonable.

Yeah for a start off we need to win the collision landing on elbows and knees, followed by a quick ptb

Like you said he can't improve the size, and yes they do struggle to go forward but he should be able to get more out of them

Another is to go wider of the ruck when taking the ball in

Not winning colision is still down to size and strength. Only cusack does well (ish).
Going wide isn't really an excuse, we can't do that all the time or we become just as predictable!

never said all the time, but when a forward takes it in, easy to defend marker just takes a step to the side and smashed thats easy to defend

Sydney Roosters are a prime example of a side, who have proven international and State of Origin players,

But employ an inexperienced manager!!

With the likes of Mason,Anasta,O'Meley,Fitzgibbon and Pearce etc in their squad,they should be top 6.

Look where they are languishing!

On the other side of the coin, you have Newcastle Knights,who have only a handful of rep players.

But they have a Manager, who has shown previously-he can take a squad,and improve their core skills.

Its interesting, that many players come off contract at our club in 2010.

Including Agar!!!

AFAIK, Sheens,Hasler Brian Smith,Taylor and Cleary are all off contract at end of 2010.

Interesting!!

Can't Agar take fittlers route of asking his captain if he can go out on the lash then getting himself into trouble and embarrasing himself (granted the embarrassment is pretty much in full flow at the mo) but instead of fining himself 10000 for been a prat he could sack himself and do us all a favour.

Aggression, effective timing of the run, gaining a quick PTB, running effective angles, dummy running, running like you actually want to gain some metres rather than running at the opposition and falling over, not turning your back on the defender as you hit him, backing up the ball carrier in case he gets an opportunity to offload. It's not fecking rocket science is it?

Basically everything there can be attributed to player attitude or passion! Or is again down to size and strength.

None of it is down to strength, it's down to coaching and motivation. I suspect a motivational talk by agar leaves you wanting to slit your wrists. Make as many excuses for him as you want, fact is he is a very poor coach

you try to put this point across in every thread possible dont ye



just accept it, hes here till at least next season

Agar gets his inspiration from your posts according to one of the player's wives.

Fukk me, my shadow's back. How's your grade A licence coming along? You totted up the likely points for next assessment yet? I get it a B

Nah, determined to get rid of the useless wessie fugger

PMSL. Doubt there's too many people in your shadow but glad you've missed me.

Bad smells and all that

Stadium with a capacity of 12,000 or more. 1
Ground meets the standards of a premier competition in the 21st century 1
Average attendance of around 10,000 spectators 1
Stadium operating at 40 per cent capacity (40% of 23,000 = 9,200) 1
Solvent. 1
Turnover is more than £4 million. 1
Averaging a place in the top eight over each of the last three seasons. 0
Contribution to home-grown player development. That means at least eight members of a first-team squad of 25 should be discovered, trained and developed in the team's home country (United Kingdom or France) 1
Not committed a major breach of the salary cap in the last three seasons 1
No other rugby league club within a 20-mile radius. 0

8 points, isn't it?

8 or more points - A licence
5-7 points - B licence
4 points or less - C licence

Just have to keep the crowds above 10k.

He may be a poor coach, I have seen him at training and I listen to what people within the club and the game as a whole say about him. Our style of rugby has improved slightly in the last few weeks. And certainly if it doesn't get better when players come back then I will agree that he has to go, but no matter how much he tries he is still left with the deadwood that his predecessors have left him. No matter who came in last year there needs to be a clearout of players and due to contractual commitments we couldn't do that at the end of last season.
This season is a different matter though, he has cap space to negotiate early termination of some contracts and has already made 4 good signings in Lauaki, long, fitzgibbon and tansey. Add to that retention of washy, briscoe and Burnett and there already is half "his" team next year.
To summarize, I am willing to wait and see what happens for the rest of this year and the off season to truly judge his all round management.
And while some of your points I agree with, your refusal to accept that there are some mitigating circumstances and laying "all" the blame at Agars feet IMO is naive.

So who do you blame for the way Craig hall has been treated???

Can you tell me the difference between CH and Chris Thorman???

Craig was dropped to the reserves because of a lack of confidence so why hasn't thorman had the same treatment when the coach has even come out and said he lacked confidence and at Leeds they took him off at half time for his own good???

That is the only time i have ever seen a (supposed) playmaker come off the field because he is dog sh*t in all the games i've ever seen and imo found it embarrassing and didn't think there is any way back for him. Clique clique for me.

so that's it then? The craig hall thing is the only thing wrong?? In that case I agree, it is all agars fault!!!

no im off to bed at 3am and avn't got time to list all agars faults, and theres plenty of them, was just using that as 1 example

Player attitude is an example of something that isn't all agars fault though.

No your dead right it isn't but he's the coach drop them and put under 21's in