Next time don't give them tickets up there if they can't behave, would hate to think what they'd have done if they lost.

From what I've seen, he is certainly part of the problem this season, although the players are the biggest issue, but he keeps picking certain ones.

I'd love someone to give me a reason Evans gets picked and Savelio was dropped for example. Playing one hooker today is another example. Carlos as captain. Playing a rusty and out of form Shaul.

Hands are tied alot, but making some strange decisions.

Shaul is awful these days unfortunately.
Every time he gets the ball he just runs in a circle then gets tackled after losing a few metres. Time will tell if Litten is good enough to make it but he at least deserves a chance. For me Shaul has just played himself out of the team for the foreseeable future.

Think Smith got it way wrong playing him to begin with. Litten has been a positive among countless negatives this season.

Maybe thrown themselves or their kids off, mind you they’re too busy eating them. Saw 2 FC fans throw their shirts onto the pitch and flick v’s after one of Rovers tries. One cheeky bugger asked the ball boy to pass them to him

Things are bad but it’s the nilling I can’t take.

Evans is rubbish but playing in the NRL with good players around you make a massive difference.
Look at Soa playing for Samoa. Probably the weakest forward in their team but he looked OK because of the players around him

so 40/2 instead of 40/0 and you would be happy?

Absolutely. As long as we score at least 1 point a game I'll be ecstatic.
It's a happy life having a low bar

both the reserve side and the first team play leeds away next friday.id swap teams.let the reserves play leeds first team and the first team play leeds reserves.reserves might do better,but the first team rabble would still get hammered

Weekend off cancelled for the players. I should think so too.

Good job they took today off

Think of the points difference

Not before time, long overdue.

Good. The right thing to do.
The problem is you can guarantee the players will sulk and moan about it and have the complete wrong attitude about it. Any professional sportsman should be eager to get straight back into training and get to work on making things right. Our lot will be too busy complaining they've been hard done to for no longer been allowed a weekend off.

team needs a big shake up,smith needs to bring a few loanees in like hodgson did.players like longstaff had a better attitude than most of these clowns.get shot of evans and lovodua,free up a couple of quota spots.we did it with reynolds and got smith over.

I meant the fact we didn’t score a try, stupid. Think your getting me confused with those that wanted a place kick for the penalty before half time, that or your trying to goad me, either way your a pessimistic fool. Lambasting the coach and Hoy your latest flame. Keep up the good work.

Four points from the first eight games is our worst start since 2015. If we lose next Friday it'll be the worst start since 1999.

It'd alright, we always win at Headingley now

Why do fans think tinkering Tony should not shoulder any responsibility for this teams failings?
If he had come into the club and started with the first game i would understand he needed some time but he has had more than 3 months of pre season training with this squad to put a stamp on fitness,a structure for both attack and defence non of which we have seen during his time here.
His team selection today was borne out of desperation
An unfit Shaul was preferred to Litten.He must have known this was a gamble by naming Mitch on the bench
which i said yesterday when Ellam named the team would be to cover Shaul going off,Mitch to the wing and McIntosh to full back.
Mitch in any case should have started on the wing and would have bolsted the right edge defence which all season has leaked tries.
McIntosh was brought back on the wing when his confidence is shattered and i think he will be moved on
Then we have the debacle of Savelio dropped for performance related/ precautionary factors WTF is that all about.Its one or the other Tony
Then to play Evans instead of Brown thats tinkering Tonys final straw for me
Had high hopes for Smith here at Hull FC but he wont last the season.
Even if we have so many players off contract as a seasoned experienced coach he still should be able to get commitment and passion out of them because thats his job and he has failed big time.
Tuimavave as captain another error, and we are seeing now why leeds released Dwyer whos nickname has always been the headless chicken and Sutcliife who is bang average.
The main thing now is to get these players on the training pitch and improve their overall fitness and speed then move onto defence as a unit so we keep in matches and dont keep getting blown away.

Your silly nickname for Smith is already very tiring.

to be fair to smith,carlos being named captain just illustrates that we havent anyone in the entire team with any leadership qualities.we need someone on the pitch to crack the whip.having said that at least half of the current squad are just not good enough.good players have either left or retired and not been replaced with anything like the same quality.pearson has to take some of the blame.

I would never confuse you for others.
Surely though the coach should have told the players to go for goal with literally three or four seconds to go.Thats his job
We played the ball and the hooter went.Two points would have made it a two score game at that stage.

Who would you replace him with?

Lets be out of form is not a reasonable excuse, we wouldnt have a 17 each week. Im lead to believe Saviellos was due to his fitness and deciding not to risk him. Carlos I agree as captain but I dont see any other candidates.

Its obvious to me Smith is experimenting alot trying to cut the good from the bad. Giving kicks up the backside in hope it gives them more fire in the belly however he hasnt watched them as much as we have knowing West Hull under 11s would give this lot a game.

Hes damned if he does on the hooker front, he plays Houghton and people complain and he has rightly dropped Lovodua.

It may look strange to some people but he is merely for me trying to find 17 players who actually give a . Unforthnatley we cant muster half of that.

Smith isnt the problem and im not convinced Hodgson or Last was. Theres only one thing that hasnt changed in 5 years and its the same people who turf up that dross.

Going for the coach is brain dead. Any of the changes suggested wouldnt have changed the outcome today.

Could it be the owner at Fault ?

Just Asking by the way

Whilst (which seems to be a broken record now) Smith might not take us from where we are to the top. I find it hard to believe you actually think any coach could turn this lot around. The players dont care, they were laughing and joking at full time, only seemed Cator and Carlos who was bothered by the loss.

With that attitude it will be very hard for anybody to make players care when they just take wages for there coffees on marina.

I dont think Smith will win silverware here but I cant think of any other coach who will be better at a rebuild. What I am concerned with is the club think they can wait till the end of the season for change.