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| Quote ="Irregular Hoops"The last few years of poor recruitment / retention / culture are all coming home to roost this year.
We look disinterested and clueless. Some of the biggest earners are the ones who are not putting the effort in.
I’m really struggling to maintain interest not just in my club, but in the game generally.'"
Go to boxing then and watch the YouTube fights or go to snooker and watch the match fixing ......
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| well I have a lot of respect and a lot of sympathy for Tony Smith but sometimes when I hear his post match summing up I wonder if he's watching the same game as me. In fact I think Dan Tomlinson summed things up better today when he said, "A horrendous first half showing" and "What was in all honesty a hopeless first half showing" As those of you who have known me over the years know I don't diss the team at all they are my team and will be to the day I die but this is just unacceptable stuff to be dished up so early in a season.
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| Quote ="Armavinit"The actual team wasn’t that bad, Casey was the problem. Once he left we weren’t too bad, didn’t we beat Wigan at home towards the end of the season.'"
Yeah I agree I meant that performance where he called the players out. Those players won’t have been on anything like the money this lot are on either.
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| Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"well I have a lot of respect and a lot of sympathy for Tony Smith but sometimes when I hear his post match summing up I wonder if he's watching the same game as me. In fact I think Dan Tomlinson summed things up better today when he said, "A horrendous first half showing" and "What was in all honesty a hopeless first half showing" As those of you who have known me over the years know I don't diss the team at all they are my team and will be to the day I die but this is just unacceptable stuff to be dished up so early in a season.'"
Not that they necessarily deserve it, but I think it's his way of trying to deflect things and protect the players.
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| why protect them?.a fair few of them need shipping out
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| He'll know this. It'll just be media talk from him.
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| Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"well I have a lot of respect and a lot of sympathy for Tony Smith but sometimes when I hear his post match summing up I wonder if he's watching the same game as me. In fact I think Dan Tomlinson summed things up better today when he said, "A horrendous first half showing" and "What was in all honesty a hopeless first half showing" As those of you who have known me over the years know I don't diss the team at all they are my team and will be to the day I die but this is just unacceptable stuff to be dished up so early in a season.'"
He not going to go on live TV and slate the team and nor should he.
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| whichever way he chooses to deal with them,its obviously not working.whatever was said during the week after the leigh debacle had no effect whatsover.the first half today was appalling
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| Quote ="Tony Smith"We had a good win in reserve grade today and that's a positive for us.There will certainly be some boys from that reserve grade game that will feature for us next week. There's no doubt about that. '"
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| It’s clear as day that a majority of the playing squad needs to be cut from the club as the mentality and attitude is just not there and hasn’t been for some time. The recruitment and retention since 2018 had been very poor and too many deals were done as mates rates & favours which has set us back considerably. TS is likely to lose the battle but ultimately win the war at the end of the season. Listening to Powell regarding the struggle he had because of the rebuild he did during last season which he completed in the off season is very much were we are now.
I just hope that Smith has already made the decisions on the majority not being renewed and targets being sought and acquired for next season.
The lack of effort and application is inexcusable regardless of how talented or not the 17 maybe, they are playing like dead men walking.
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| TS is being diplomatic about the playing group and rightly so. He has to work with them on a daily basis. Looks like he’s tried to get them on side but for whatever reason they’re not capable or willing to give it a go.
I’m sure every fc fan would fully support playing some of our reserve team.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"He not going to go on live TV and slate the team and nor should he.'"
Sorry you don't agree but it was just comments like, "I'm pleased to say our responses in the second forty were a whole lot better." Ive watched that back since and we were by and large just the same in the second half, players completely lost in the attacking line and failing to win the wrestle in defence. Fact is Warrington were just cruising with one eye on next week, and who can blame them, and that made us look a little better.
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| Our young aussies are e
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| Tony Smith wrote:
We had a good win in reserve grade today and that's a positive for us.There will certainly be some boys from that reserve grade game that will feature for us next week. There's no doubt about that.
Sorry Tony but its just not working for you here
Your interviews are becoming boring and dont reflect what we are seeing on the field and maybe this laid back approach that you have is also sending the players to sleep so they dont wake up until the second half.
You had an opportunity today to try something different at half back as we all can see Lovodua at six just doesnt work.Hoy is a huge disappointment at full back and maybe a few weeks at six would give him more opportunity to run with the ball and increase his confidence.Litten then would been available to have played in his best position at full back as he is not a winger.
You could then have played Mitch on the wing which at least would have bolstered that right edge defence but looks like his face doesnt fit as he was relegated to playing in the reserves today after also missing out last week.
For some reason you keep faith by playing Houghton and Taylor Why? These two are way past their best and should be top of the get rid list followed by Evans,Lovodua,Griffin and Shaul.
Satae has gone backwards this season and could be unsettled due to Sao leaving.
As fans we all know this season would be difficult with a major re build for 2024 but since Smith has arrived the defence is a shambles.If there is one thing we know a coach can do is produce a hard to beat defensive team out of average players and this is where Smith should have started.Make us hard to beat then start to improve the attack.
Had high hopes for Smith then started to have doubts when Gene was announced as his assistant.
Now i dont think he will see out the season
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| Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"Sorry you don't agree but it was just comments like, "I'm pleased to say our responses in the second forty were a whole lot better." Ive watched that back since and we were by and large just the same in the second half, players completely lost in the attacking line and failing to win the wrestle in defence. Fact is Warrington were just cruising with one eye on next week, and who can blame them, and that made us look a little better.'"
A very honest post.
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| Quote ="bonaire"Tony Smith wrote:
We had a good win in reserve grade today and that's a positive for us.There will certainly be some boys from that reserve grade game that will feature for us next week. There's no doubt about that.
Sorry Tony but its just not working for you here
Your interviews are becoming boring and dont reflect what we are seeing on the field and maybe this laid back approach that you have is also sending the players to sleep so they dont wake up until the second half.
You had an opportunity today to try something different at half back as we all can see Lovodua at six just doesnt work.Hoy is a huge disappointment at full back and maybe a few weeks at six would give him more opportunity to run with the ball and increase his confidence.Litten then would been available to have played in his best position at full back as he is not a winger.
You could then have played Mitch on the wing which at least would have bolstered that right edge defence but looks like his face doesnt fit as he was relegated to playing in the reserves today after also missing out last week.
For some reason you keep faith by playing Houghton and Taylor Why? These two are way past their best and should be top of the get rid list followed by Evans,Lovodua,Griffin and Shaul.
Satae has gone backwards this season and could be unsettled due to Sao leaving.
As fans we all know this season would be difficult with a major re build for 2024 but since Smith has arrived the defence is a shambles.If there is one thing we know a coach can do is produce a hard to beat defensive team out of average players and this is where Smith should have started.Make us hard to beat then start to improve the attack.
Had high hopes for Smith then started to have doubts when Gene was announced as his assistant.
Now i dont think he will see out the season'" youre cock on smith is becoming boring , everything you say is true, he also started babbling his garbage at rovers but i
suppose he deserves a little time
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| Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"Sorry you don't agree but it was just comments like, "I'm pleased to say our responses in the second forty were a whole lot better." Ive watched that back since and we were by and large just the same in the second half, players completely lost in the attacking line and failing to win the wrestle in defence. Fact is Warrington were just cruising with one eye on next week, and who can blame them, and that made us look a little better.'"
May as well talk to the wall Wilf
That comment by Smith about the second half was the last straw for me
I seriously dont think his heart is in the job.There is no anger, no passion.
He will make it easy for Pearson and walk away
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| Quote ="bonaire"May as well talk to the wall Wilf
That comment by Smith about the second half was the last straw for me
I seriously dont think his heart is in the job.There is no anger, no passion.
He will make it easy for Pearson and walk away'"
Don't talk nonsense. He was never going to turn it around in seven games and he's not the sort of coach who is going to lose his rag on live TV. That doesn't mean his heart isn't in it.
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| Don't know why it's difficult for some people to realise what Smith says infront of the cameras and what he says behind them will be different things.
7 games in and people are already calling for him to be sacked is pathetic.
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| Smith has been in this game for a long time and I've never seen him be anything but measured in front of the camera or when talking to the press. Why would he change that approach now?
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| Quote ="bonaire"May as well talk to the wall Wilf
That comment by Smith about the second half was the last straw for me
I seriously dont think his heart is in the job.There is no anger, no passion.
He will make it easy for Pearson and walk away'" You really do talk some Sh.ite
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| I’ve said this regularly
Of the 20 out of contract - only renew 3
simple as that
pick the 3 at the end of the season
there is a cancer in the Club
AP also is the Boss and Chief Exec - a lot of it now clearly lies with him !!!!!
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| Quote ="mwindass"Don't know why it's difficult for some people to realise what Smith says infront of the cameras and what he says behind them will be different things.
7 games in and people are already calling for him to be sacked is pathetic.'"
But the same players not up to it are still in the team week after week
Send a statement out and play some youngsters
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Don't talk nonsense. He was never going to turn it around in seven games and he's not the sort of coach who is going to lose his rag on live TV. That doesn't mean his heart isn't in it.'"
I am not just talking about 7 games i am talking about what he has also done with the team in Pre season.
The seven games we have seen say its been very little apart from producing an unfit squad who have lost the ability to tackle
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| Quote ="hull2524"You really do talk some Sh.ite'"
Lets see shall we
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