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| Not a rumour but have seen on twitter that both Crooks and Miller have been doing hull summer camps this week.
Also the 3rd Tyson-Wilson has signed for Hull.
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| Is he any good?
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| Quote ="Dave K."See this is why the club can't win with some fans, people like you have moaned about the club and Radford all season, they then start to get ruthless and get rid of some average players who are paid miles above there value and have better players in the position they play in and the same fans moan about unfair treatment to these players.
About the club gut tough and started getting value for money from there players.'"
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Its not about been ruthless its the way the club have conducted themselves,first with Gentle and then with McDonnell.
Gentles sacking you will remember was leaked to the press several months before and then denied by the club.
A coach who took the club to Wembley and 6th position in the league and had already started to rectify getting some bulk and weight in the front row by Signing Paea and Feka was identified whilst Gentle was here.
McDonnell has been harshly dealt with.he wanted to play for the club and fight for his place but was told he wasn't wanted and couldn't agree to the clubs settlement terms.Hardly his fault.He was never given a chance and you cant say is he an average player as he is a class full back.
I stand by what I said that the club have done themselves no favours with agents and players in Australia and will struggle to bring in any quality centre or second row.
If Hull Kr can go out to Australia and sign a really good young fast winger and Castleford can sign a top class half back, yet we are linked to a second rate Australian/Italian winger says it all.
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| McDonnell refused to go dual reg at Doncaster to prove his fitness.
(He still hasn't played, as far as I'm aware, 5 weeks after signing for Saints.)
We're not after the "winger" you mention.
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To be fair Sky sports website have him also linked with us. I hope it's Rovers and not us as I don't think a 2nd grade Aussie winger is good business.
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To be fair Sky sports website have him also linked with us. I hope it's Rovers and not us as I don't think a 2nd grade Aussie winger is good business.
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| The club have been asked and have told Hull Daily Fail it is not us.
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| Quote ="ccs"McDonnell refused to go dual reg at Doncaster to prove his fitness.
(He still hasn't played, as far as I'm aware, 5 weeks after signing for Saints.)
We're not after the "winger" you mention.'"
Has played for Rochdale on duel reg every week. Whilst I don't know the ins and outs of of the goings on between hull and McDonnell, in such events fabrication becomes fact and vice versa, he's never had a problem with duel reg with us.,,
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| Quote ="bonaire"Dave
Its not about been ruthless its the way the club have conducted themselves,first with Gentle and then with McDonnell.
Gentles sacking you will remember was leaked to the press several months before and then denied by the club.
A coach who took the club to Wembley and 6th position in the league and had already started to rectify getting some bulk and weight in the front row by Signing Paea and Feka was identified whilst Gentle was here.
McDonnell has been harshly dealt with.he wanted to play for the club and fight for his place but was told he wasn't wanted and couldn't agree to the clubs settlement terms.Hardly his fault.He was never given a chance and you cant say is he an average player as he is a class full back.
I stand by what I said that the club have done themselves no favours with agents and players in Australia and will struggle to bring in any quality centre or second row.
If Hull Kr can go out to Australia and sign a really good young fast winger and Castleford can sign a top class half back, yet we are linked to a second rate Australian/Italian winger says it all.'"
Utter nonsense. As usual.
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| Quote ="Magic Superbeetle"Has played for Rochdale on duel reg every week. Whilst I don't know the ins and outs of of the goings on between hull and McDonnell, in such events fabrication becomes fact and vice versa, he's never had a problem with duel reg with us.,,'"
...well, nearly every week. Couldn't find any reference on the Saints website, so assumed (wrongly) that he wasn't playing.
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| Reece Robinson would be great addition to the squad if he was available .
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| Quote ="Kosh"Utter nonsense. As usual.'"
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| Quote ="bonaire"so what part is nonsense?'"
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| Radio Humberside and the Hull Daily Mail both now linking Matellato to Rovers rather than Hull.
Woud hope we are aiming higher to be honest, even though bonaire thinks we are on some sort of black list.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Would hope we are aiming higher to be honest, even though bonaire thinks we are on some sort of black list.
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| Quote ="ccs"McDonnell refused to go dual reg at Doncaster to prove his fitness.
(He still hasn't played, as far as I'm aware, 5 weeks after signing for Saints.)
We're not after the "winger" you mention.'"
I was under the impression that "overseas" players were not allowed out on dual reg. Hence why Miller is "on loan".
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| Quote ="Graham Richards"I was under the impression that "overseas" players were not allowed out on dual reg. Hence why Miller is "on loan".'" I'm sure the rule has been changed for this season.
McDonnell played only twice for Rochdale before the July 25th deadline, so by my reckoning shouldn't have played after that date but has (once).
Bit from RFL website... Quote Dave Llewellyn, James Dandy and Lewis Sheridan scored tries for Hornets, who had St Helens' new signing Shannon McDonnell playing for them on a dual-registration'"
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| Quote ="Graham Richards"Quote ="ccs"McDonnell refused to go dual reg at Doncaster to prove his fitness.
(He still hasn't played, as far as I'm aware, 5 weeks after signing for Saints.)
We're not after the "winger" you mention.'"
I was under the impression that "overseas" players were not allowed out on dual reg. Hence why Miller is "on loan".'"
McDonnell has a British passport.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Radio Humberside and the Hull Daily Mail both now linking Matellato to Rovers rather than Hull.
Woud hope we are aiming higher to be honest, even though bonaire thinks we are on some sort of black list.
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who mentioned black list ?
read the post again I said the club have done themselves no favours with players and agents in Australia
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| Is it right that Mantellato has played only 2 first grade games at 27? Would be a strange one for us.
Thomas Leuluai has re-signed with NZ Warriors until 2017.
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| lancaster and crooks to rovers
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"lancaster and crooks to rovers'"
Good luck to Lancaster. Huge offer from Rovers agitated for by his agent has blown our salary valuation of around £40k out of the water. Or so the story goes.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Good luck to Lancaster. Huge offer from Rovers agitated for by his agent has blown our salary valuation of around £40k out of the water. Or so the story goes.'"
Only a rumour and I'd be amazed if both went there. lancaster maybe but surely crooks would have better options
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Only a rumour and I'd be amazed if both went there. lancaster maybe but surely crooks would have better options'"
You'd think so. But as Radford has identified (and failed to resolve) despite all the natural talent/pace he undoubtedly has, he perhaps lacks the physicality of a top drawer SL centre. Would he displace the centres at any of the top 6 on this year's form. Rovers already have Goulding, Welham and Salter contracted and Cockayne as cover, so to buy Crooks out of his contract and add him too means they are spoilt for cover.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"You'd think so. But as Radford has identified (and failed to resolve) despite all the natural talent/pace he undoubtedly has, he perhaps lacks the physicality of a top drawer SL centre. Would he displace the centres at any of the top 6 on this year's form. Rovers already have Goulding, Welham and Salter contracted and Cockayne as cover, so to buy Crooks out of his contract and add him too means they are spoilt for cover.'"
Cas would be my bet
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