Crookes was hulls best player probably. Why would you drop him? Lineham is good and gonna be a star, especially going forward but based on what I've seen of him over 2seasons of 20s I watched before he made 1st I'm not sure he could of handled everything that got thrown down our right. Crookes one of the only bright points for me last night

Don't listen to him pal, Whiting was absolute dog turd as well but because he stood up to Bailey it's fine, apparently.

Aye, just glad Gentle sees things differently to the armchair coaches on here.

This attitude always makes me chuckle.

Why? Plenty of people post on here claiming their opinion of a player is more valid than others, it then makes me chuckle when a SL coach then basically dismisses their theory.
How many of us have been coaches? Done any kind of coaching qualification? Not many I'd bet, and watching the game for 20, 30 or 40 years does not count either.

If Arundel makes the top ten missed tackles list four seasons in a row, maybe.

Lots of talk about Westerman and Galea being poor. I thought Whiting was one of our worst last night, completely non existent.

Really pleased with Green, had a running battle with Peacock, wasn't afraid to mix it.

I thought Westerman went well last night especially in defence, people expect way to much from him.

Agree about Green, him and JP was at it all night.

They can gel all they like but that won't stop them dropping of tackles and as for the 'on paper' comment........

Defending your line for the best part of an hour against the champions away its obvious your going to drop of tackles in the last quarter.

Agree with Rock God,when we bought Westerman,I said he was a waste of money,I still stand by that assertion,he has done nothing in the preceding years to change my mind.

While we are at it,last night Seymour was abysmal,he not only can't kick,pass or take on the line his one on one defense is appalling,we can't carry him the entire season,put Horne back to Seven,ship Seymour out.

Start with Heremaia and use Houghton to run at tiring defenses,he's seem to have lost this art,this is what made him,last night I don't think he ran from acting half once,his distribution or intelligence isn't good enough to be a controlling nine.

If they're dropping off tackles in the last quarter after one game god help them later in the season. No excuses they were poor in every aspect, defence being one of them.

whenever I see a performance like that, I think of the film dodgeball, with the whole "you have to get angry" bit. We really need to get the players up for it and ready to give them a good go. Chris Green was the only player who looked like he was up for doing whatever it takes to win and while it's still early days I just feel we're not only lacking a proper playmaker(I understand Holdsworth needs more time to settle obviously) but we're also lacking a proper ruthless player, with energy and just that 'X factor'. Manu and Moa will be sorely missed, as well as Mcgoldrick, what he lacked in skill he made up for in energy and attacking enthusiasm.

I still believe in Peter Gentle, but I'm not too sure about our squad.

Check the possesion and field possesion for the first hour, tells the story.

I watched the game, I find that tells me more then stats.

crookes was certainly not one of the stand out performers at all were u watching the radio???
the whole team had a shocker barring green,Heremai who looked class and Johnson he did a job too other than that no stand outs for me both half backs lacked creation and did not click once not many other options for gentle though no one good enough to play alongside holdsworth other than Seymour in the squad and hes average at best.

Watch it closer and remember who we are playing and how much defending and were we are defending.

thought crookes looked ok to me, and he has got real pace, think we will see him and lineham our wingers next year

No I watched with open eyes unlike some of our s**t fans who were dying for him to be poor to justify their lineham in wishes.
Guessing your amongst them. Crookes never stopped all night, got a real rough ride and never once could be blamed outright for any Leeds tries and nearly pulled off a wonder tackle
What was said on radio? Cos if they think same as me n a few others then we might be onto something.!!

Give it up. There are a fair number of our fans who simply aren't interested in the facts.

Too true. Too quick to moan and whinge, season over, not good enough, same old story etc etc etc.

Boring.

You having a pop at me there......i said Crookes had a good game and ran ball out well and coverd well running back in defence but trys still came down that channel....as for Whiting...he put in a good defensive stint as well and was in Baileys face but did i say standing up to him...no...Whiting wasnt his usual self but he wasnt dog turd...he was a damn sight better than Galea and Westerman.

Yeah i do forget. I take it DrH was stood near me at the ground, i wanted to stand in the South stand it was that bad.

don't worry i was there behind the sticks freezing my off too i must of not seen the same Crookes as you he made some good cover tackles and has pace but i do like lineham more on what ive seen of them both over last year and this year so far but in terms of this game he did more then some of the players i agree and its only the 1st game so we shall see what happens maybe ill eat my words and he will be awsome i hope he does.

Whiting and Galea were as useless as each other last night.

Our only two bits of good attacking play were created by Seymour and Westerman, yet they are still getting stick. Unbelievable.