Is there enough room on the naughty step for him and crooks?

What's the thinking behind that strategy then? Is it a punishment?

Agreed.....think I was told he is a modern youth and over confident. He is just getting a reality check at the moment. I think it's hard for any club as you cannot let talent hold you to ransom. Ben crooks is the same....good player and a great first season but his defence has been found out and it needs to improve but he is still living on the memories of his first season IMO

maybe, just maybe he wants too much money for a kid with about 10 games experience. You would all be moaning if we miss out on someone if we couldn't fit them under the cap because we overpaid an inexperienced winger

If he wants £50k+ send him packing. Apart from raw speed he hasn't shown anything to suggest he's some kind of wonder kid.
If somebody wants to pay him that ridiculous sum then fine, but I can only see one chairman willing to do what it takes so he can play the 'brought one of our own back from the dark side' card.

If true about his demands, then the right stance by the club, shown potential, but could be another Tommy Lee.

I personally think he will sign, seems very happy at the club, even after being dropped his tweets were very pro Hull.

Scored 4trys against Saints under 19's

Pearson thinks he'll sign too, just a young kid that's had smoke blown up his ass probably.

I hope he signs, but I don't think it would be a catastrophe or 'goes against everything AP said' blah blah blah for him to leave if we've offered him a competitive deal. Under the previous regime (KH) I could see us not, but not under AP.

Plus he's a 17 year old kid, the 'fresh start' tweet could just as easily be about teenage puppy love crap! We've all been there.

Indeed. If he needs a "fresh start" in his rugby career at the age of seventeen then he's probably not going to be a stayer at any club in the future.

He's probably just bought The Last Of Us Remastered after already completed it on the PS3!

Lancaster want 50k Rovers have offered him that but won't pay a fee, we offered 40k max, Wire want him too. He could be the next Kevin Penny and he needs briniging back down too earth. Crooks want 120k and he's not worth it.

Better tell Chris Chester not to bother going around to his house then anymore. He's a good mate of a friend of mines son. He's not happy with what Hull have offered him and his agent thinks he's worth more.

Who is his agent ?

He has scored tries and has some speed but how many has he scored that Lineham and Talanoa wouldn't have ? I'm more concerned about the Ben Crooks rumours, he can score tries out of nothing and no way should we be letting him go.

Miller? lol

Its ace, all these people know to the nearest penny how much each club has offered and to who.

Maybe you all got the job that was advertised in the League Express

Agreed.

Yes he is quick and yes he can finish but his defence is 'all over the place'.

Certainly not worth £50k yet and has a lot of improving to do to prove it.

How many wingers do the Dobbins want anyway? What has happened to the fastest player in SL?

Has a wingers instinct in finishing IMO (and bravery) - I agree though with the £50k sentiment

Now I am a fan of Crooks, but is there any wonder some young players end up with inflated ego's when comments like this get bounded about.

Most of Crooks tries have been scored via his ability to run fast and provide support to a ball carrier

There are very few tries which spring to mind which he has created from nothing.

Oh, he needs to learn how to defend to become the player he appears to think he is!

Looks like Taylor will be staying at wigan for another season, then move to Hull on a free (a bit of a risky strategy, but one I can understand).

Not too bad for props as it stands with Watts, Feka and Paea, the first three and one of Green and Bowden for the 4th.

Taylor to replace Feka or Paea in 2016.

I don't like this attitude at the club when there seems to be a contract dispute you are left out in the cold.
McDonnell,Lancaster,Ben Crooks and possibly Miller to come.
We all know Crooks is not the best defender in SL but to play Whiting at centre in front of him is a joke.
Shenton just ran round Whiting 2 or 3 times with his pace yet the coach doesn't see this as a defensive weakness.

You could argue about Crooks, but not about the others.

Not sure McDonnell, Miller or Lancaster have been dropped because of their contract situation.

Just better players in the positions.

Shaul
Talanoa and Lineham
Abdul, Horne and Rankin.

I know it's been mentioned on here previous and that some have said it's a no go due to his demands , but according to my mate at work who's brother plays for the under 19 Pritchard was at the Cas game 2 weeks ago . I'm unsure if to believe it myself as no one else as mentioned it but can't see him lying about it . Miller was sat behind my mate and brother and was with him and introduced them to him .

He is a Big Guy,and if he was at the KC sitting near to Miller I think someone else would have mentioned it by now.
personally I think we will struggle to bring in any top Australians given the clubs dealings with McDonnell and possibly Miller to come.

I would doubt it will make any difference, money talks, we have had and have plenty of overseas players who will speak very highly of the club, people like Ellis, Heremia and Paea could potentially help with recruitment.

Not really sure what the club has done wrong in regards Miller.

Out of contract NRL list, not too many stand out, one player who would make a very good backrower in SL would be Joseph Paulo, who played 6 for the USA during the World Cup and is OOC. Let's look at the facts, Horne is retiring because his body isn't up to playing 20 games of SL, his form has been inconsistent for the last 5 years. www.zerotackle.com/nrl/rugby-lea ... movements/

Out of contract NRL list, not too many stand out, one player who would make a very good backrower in SL would be Joseph Paulo, who played 6 for the USA during the World Cup and is OOC. Let's look at the facts, Horne is retiring because his body isn't up to playing 20 games of SL, his form has been inconsistent for the last 5 years. www.zerotackle.com/nrl/rugby-lea ... movements/