Rely on Sky website reports for non televised matches. No highlights available for Aus.

Report tonight started by saying that Wigan came back fom 8-0 down to lead 10-8 by HT before then going on to say that wigan opened the scoring after 3 mins!

Did show the Farrell/ Griffin scuffle.

Wigan fan here in peace, thought your lads were solid today but offered very little in attack, for all the quality in that back line there’s no creativity on the edges. Your main problem imo is Shaul, he hasn’t got a clue on when and how to join the line and the difference between him and French was night and day. You do need a new coach though I think

You've pretty much summed it all up there.

Out of interest did anyone see what signal the ref gave when he awarded Wigan the penalty after the scuffle?

He didn't look like he was going to penalise Houghton, he was happy that he was just being trapped in. Then it was Farrell who instigated the brawl by shoving Houghton at the PTB. Of course Griffin shouldn't have come in like he did, but surely the first offence was by Farrell and it should have been our penalty? Was the penalty eventually given for interference by Houghton or was it Griffin that was penalised?

Firstly a magnificent effort from the travelling Hull fans outstanding, bravo. Do you think Wigan can reciprocate this support thank you. Josh Griffin, outstanding, Ligi & Gaz warriors.

If Jordon Lane releases a straight forward pass we walk in 14-14 different ball game, if Jake or Mark finally realise, in goal kicking is percentage wise much more rewarding than aimless high kicks more points will come from pressure.

In a very entertaining game, we were beat by a Wigan side who looked fit and fast, not a rubbish team as described by an earlier poster. Fonua is improving every match, and as with Swift produced some excellent stuff amongst the ordinary, it’s very early days, this result is not the end of the world, yes it does highlight our second string forwards are behind the eight ball, but with such quality to return, we’ve no worries, plenty of doom and gloom on here from the usual suspects, but that’s to be expected on this board. Referees no comment you had to be there.

Video of scuffle includes Hick's voice during the incident. OK with the the ptb so went on to the scuffle and in discussions with his assistants said Farrell was the instigator in the scuffle with Griffin and both would be sent to the sin bin with a penalty to Hull . Signaled 10 mins each with his hands as he could not find his yellow card!

I don't agree, yesterday we had 3 of our starting pack missing and we matched Wigan upfront for most of the game, we had as much territory as them, they were more clinical and some individual defending was poor, Hastings and French were the main differences yesterday.

Our attack is awful, our haflbacks and FB have not been good enough so far this season, with maybe the exception of the first game.

I wouldn't renew Shauls contract and if Kelly leaves I look to sign a 6 from the NRL, use Connor or Wynne at FB.

Based on what, radford said Carlos nearly made last week.

Jones has been solid, not hit the straps yet, I'm confident he will come good though.

Wigan had 5 kids in their starting pack and bench plus mitch Clark who wasnt deemed good enough for hull kr. We will come up against much better packs this year

Not sure your point our weakened pack matched Wigan's weakened pack.

If we play teams with their full strength pack and we have 3 main players out it will be hard, but thats the same for any sides surely (look at Saints against Warrington).

Our pack is no where near our biggest problem.

I'm confident we can match most packs in the league, even with 3 players out, Saints maybe the exception, but it's more the way the team is coached than the players.

1. Connor
6. Kelly
7. Sneyd

or

1. Shaul
6. Connor
7. Sneyd
13. Kelly

But in the second scenario keep Shaul away from being a pivot!!

Masi should have sparked Farrell after the altercation with Houghton.

im a little baffled with Radfords thought process with regards to the backup

Cast your mind back to last season when Brown and Wynne came into the team, both played very very well considering, weve seen repeatedly with Fash and Matongo they dont quite do it, my question is why are they both picked above Jack Brown?

Id like to see Brown and Cator used instead of Matongo and Fash i think both are more assertive and busier

Both have been injured, both were due to play their first games of the season in the reserves at the weekend.

Then this game was cancelled.

unfortunately, Fash will never be good enough and brings nothing to the table apart from enthusiasm which is not enough for this level

Me too. Fash will never be good enough and Masi seems to lack aggression, maybe he should have been sent to Leigh instead of Bienek.

It's really sad that it's been years since we developed a player that has cemented a place in the first team. Who was the last one, Shaul/Bowden?

Sadly our backup is poor .
Masi and Fash nowhere near good enough.

for me you can throw lane into that to, if brown was fit would have been nice to see him get a game, also am sure Bienik if not on loan could have added a bit more humph, over the next few weeks we will start to get players back, am still backing Radford BUT if we are still struggling when we do then his place becomes unsure,

Fair enough if they have both been out injured, i think these can go down as further opportunitys to impress missed by Fash and Matongo.

Thing with Matongo for whatever reasons he just doesnt seem busy enough, is it lack of interchange time, assertivness or bad ball distribution.

What i liked about Brown was he wanted the ball all the time, always talking and looking for work, he just seems to want it that bit more.

Lets see what Satae and Kelly bring to the team, and we l hopefully have good news on other injurys

Any updates in injurys. Bit top secret at the minute the lack of injury news, weve had no updates on Savelio or how Manu Maus doing

Wasnt Savelio only a niggle that turned into missing two games so far

Mau will be back....
Could have played yesterday but kept back for this week

Injury updates in the hdm…. https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... au-3849021 https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... mo-3873987

Injury updates in the hdm…. https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... au-3849021 https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... mo-3873987

God knows where you get that info but miles off
The only additions to the team will be Satae and Kelly