by June if Hull are bottom 2 or 3 they will have no pulling power to sign anyone of any clout. The current finance constraints on the club means in a bidding war for players they lose every time. Think the only thing that will change your fortunes is a new NRL, well connected coach. You need to lose 3 of your overseas players ASAP and bring in some real good second tier/ fringe players but the current coach is sadly way out of his depth with the modern game.

People saying JWH is a bad signing for rovers but I'm sure they wouldn't be saying that if he was in our pack on Friday night!

Defensively stronger than litten, plus you get yardage from.backfield

Littens no winger

Whilst Johnstone and Davies are fit at Catalan, we should look at getting Fouad Yaha on loan, experienced winger and would provide us with some size in the back and help with our exit sets

Captain. Vice captain and last years captain all out.

I'm guessing that Nu Brown or Sutcliffe will be skipper.

can we just have a bit of appreciation for okanbor he was outstanding in the derby, hes gonna turn heads v wire !

You have a low bar for outstanding.

That just shows how inexperienced our side will be on Friday.

Plus he’ll be another year older by the time he joins them.

Let’s see how many games he plays this season?

Very definition of a player coming to the end of his career looking for one last pay day.

No way should Martin be at centre.

It is the most difficult position to play defensively, as proved by Litten, and he shouldn’t be put under that pressure.

He's played over 300 NRL games and 33 times for the kiwis, like Pritchard in 2016 or Kearney in 2005, someone like that would be perfect for us...we've no experienced head for the young players to learn off, JWH could provide that...and no doubt will for rovers young forwards

I’m well aware of his past but it’s his abilities next season that matter here.

Sign him in 2030 and your argument would still apply.

He’s a penalty machine and, as I said, it will be interesting to see how much he plays this season?

We are now 15/1 with 22.5 points start - I like both of them

One pound on each for me



(gambling is a fool's game)

He knows he can come here, give someone a slap around the chops and get a few weeks holiday on full pay. He can then spend his time exploring Europe.

Kendall the video ref, so expect an indepth review of everytime we breath too close to a Warrington player.

18/1 odds for us to win !
Unreal
Maybe we should recall Andy Dannat?

Looking like Ockunbor is the new scapegoat.
Don't get it especially after just 2 games and especially when he is still fairly new to the second row.
Thought he went quite well in both games personally and looked strong in his carries. Just needs to be used right and think he could go really well.

Okunbor was steady for me and certainly shouldn't be singled out for any criticism, he was one of our better players last week (or less worse players anyway). He'll improve the more he gets used to super league and his surroundings.

Missed that tackle on Lewis and gave away a penalty, but overall thought he did Ok, tackled well (a couple of excellent tackles at the marker and a try saver), ran hard too, think he will come good long term if he can get some good ball. Not our biggest worry for sure.

Okunbor wasn't brilliant (although nobody could've been brilliant in last week's team) but he wasn't awful either, if he was part of Club Hull he'd have gone under the radar, but being a quota player he'll be under more scrutiny from the fans

It was a dire performance all-round last week , I really cant see why anyone would single one player out from that carnage .

Agree, and a pretty fair assessment. We were an absolute dogs dinner last Thursday and made things even worse as the game progressed. The only positive really is that despite everything they at least didn't chuck the towel in.

As you say Okunbor wasn't brilliant but nobody was but he wasn't terrible either (or get a ban) so hopefully with his first game under his belt we'll see a bit more from him.

We have no centres, and martins played there a fair bit for the academy

There is nobody else, unless its a young lad with zero 1st team experiance

Who do you suggest?

I think Mcintosh has played a bit of centre for Huddersfield, maybe an option with Litten going to the wing? I think it's going to be a mish mash backline whichever way you slice it unfortunately. I'd rather that than throw an academy player into this game it would do more harm than good.

Makes the decision to let Manoa Wacokecoke leave even stranger really, as there's no real centres in the reserves until you get down to Dawson who's too young.

Also AP did state pre season that another outside back could be signed before the season, but nothing came of that either

I watch most home academy games and always follow the teams, I don't think he has ever played then. Could be my old memory letting me down.

Mcintosh would be a better bet, sure he has played there before or Walker at centre, Hoy FB.