Im not up fo this game, am there for the Leeds game though.

Morning Cookie.

No worries, I'll have a word tonight with a friend and confirm how you go about joining, then drop you a pm.

Dont think I am known for low key approaches tho mate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm assuming the question to join the B&W A or form our own ISA will be raised and looked into at our meeting in July? I think it's best we approach this issue there unless people are happy to go with the idea of joining the B&W A?

Obviously we will need to know the details of what this would mean - joining the Black and Whites Association and if we will have some agreed revised purpose or terms of reference.

Either way we need to establish some Independant Fans Group....a supporters trust like Hutchie mentioned.

Me too thanks

No probs.

I can give you Terry Taylor's number and yes they are always after new memebers.

And me as well if you dont mind

Don't put words in my mouth please. Well done to FC Voices on that particular issue but when I read the minutes it just seems to be that they are by and large treated with contempt by the club, hence my not worth a w**k comment.

What's this for?

You been upsetting people Paul?

I always seem to upset somone

Read page 14 of this thread and all will become clear.

Ahh we are talking about getting a PM, though we were all agreeing to meet you!!!

Wouldn't know what you looked like for a start!

like his avatar, but not as good looking

Is that possible!??!

I didn't, you did. You said Voices are not worth a w**k, therefore everyone they help must not be worth a w**k too, stands to reason, doesn't it?

I am sorry but you appear whether you like it or not to be making a very biased statement, Paul is taking in general not about the particular issue you are talking about.

I do also know of disabled people who can't get a perimeter parking pass though.

Plus my statement of earlier about certain members having their own agendas still stands for me.

Care to give an example?

Thats quite a damning staement, which yu had better qualify I think, with some proof!!

No.

Harringey Social Services dept is not worth a wa[in[/ik. That doesn't mean the people it is set up to help are not.

Vodafone are not worth a wa[in[/ik, yet as a (former) customer of theirs I do consider myself to be very much worth a wa[in[/ik.

In a non-gay way.

I'm not talking of perimiter parking passes. They have all been taken up a long time ago, I am talking about the Carnegie, South parking area etc.

I certainly do not have my own agenda, I have personally gained absolutely nothing from being in Voices except the knowledge that I have helped(disabled) fans have a more enjoyable match day experiece which is the whole point of FC Voices which a lot of you seem to be missing.