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| Quote ="Dettoriman"Mine isn't really a hunch. I was talking earlier in the season to some friends about him potentially going to Wigan. These friends have links to agents and the club. And they were adamant he wouldn't get a visa. I hope he does. '"
If his agent and the club were 'adamant' he wouldn't get a visa, why even bother going through the motions of a transfer deal? Just wastes everyone's time, surely. To me the fact that a deal has been done indicates that the people actually in a position to know about these things think a visa can be obtained.
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| This brings back memories of when we had to arrange a civil partnership ceremony for Moa and Luaki to secure there visa's
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| Quote ="Hutchie"This brings back memories of when we had to arrange a civil partnership ceremony for Moa and Luaki to secure there visa's'"
I never knew that Moa & lauaki had a civil partnership.
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| Quote ="REDWHITEANDBLUE"You are clearly up to speed with the current border controls around people applying for visas with convictions then! Rangi has a visa to play with Cas this was obtained before his conviction IIRC if he moves clubs then =if [uis visa is like the one Potter has it only allows him to play at Cas,[/u He will have to get a new visa for Hull. I suppose time will tell if hes got a specific type of visa he maybe OK but the story broke days ago about a deal been done so why no official announcement? I'll let you work it out.'"
As I've said before, if it's linked to a work permit, Brent Webb's visa only allows him to play for Leeds, Keith Lulia's only allows him to play for Bradford, etc etc. If a player wants to move to another club via the work permit route, they need a new visa. Unless you can get the new visa by the premium service from UKBA, it can take weeks, so maybe there'll be no official announcement until then and maybe he's coming for next season after all. We've had our fingers burnt before.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"So I can listen to Chris28's, a [uprofessional[/u in the field, views or someone with a hunch.'"
First time I've EVER been called that
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| Cant you do something about it Chris - get the paperwork done!
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| Quote ="Dettoriman"Mine isn't really a hunch. I was talking earlier in the season to some friends about him potentially going to Wigan. These friends have links to agents and the club. And they were adamant he wouldn't get a visa. I hope he does.
Fwiw. He has a child, To a long term gf, Surely if he married her, He would be allowed to stay and work in the country ?'"
Chris28 is an employee of UKBA, he has clearly stated, the stipulations required for Chase to move to Hull FC.
The conviction in 2011, has no bearing ,IF it was, he would be not allowed back in the country in 2011 after his court case.
The only thing Chase needs to do, is to amend his change of employer to Hull FC.
Also,he could state changes in his application, eg He is now a parent of a UK citizen, (coupled with the child's mother is also a UK citizen.), no Government would deny a working visa, to a parent who has a UK born child.
Its possible, to get a same day service for a fee, but that is purely dependant , if the UKBA office has available appointments .
IMO- It will just take time - no dramas.
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| Quote ="Wilde 3"Cant you do something about it Chris - get the paperwork done!
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Nowt to do with me guv, I'm not a roving immigration superhero. Not yet.
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| Quote ="weaver93"Chris28 is an employee of UKBA, he has clearly stated, the stipulations required for Chase to move to Hull FC.
The conviction in 2011, has no bearing ,IF it was, he would be not allowed back in the country in 2011 after his court case.
The only thing Chase needs to do, is to amend his change of employer to Hull FC.
Also,he could state changes in his application, eg He is now a parent of a UK citizen, (coupled with the child's mother is also a UK citizen.), no Government would deny a working visa, to a parent who has a UK born child.
Its possible, to get a same day service for a fee, but that is purely dependant , if the UKBA office has available appointments available.
IMO- It will just take time - no dramas.'"
If it was that simple Adam Pearson wouldn't be telling you it's a problem.
I hope it goes through. I hope it goes through before Friday. I fear it won't though.
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| Quote ="Dettoriman"If it was that simple Adam Pearson wouldn't be telling you it's a problem.
I hope it goes through. I hope it goes through before Friday. I fear it won't though.'"
Adam Pearson is not telling us it is a problem...The local rag is reporting it is a problem there are no quotes from the club regarding this matter.
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| Quote ="Dettoriman"If it was that simple Adam Pearson wouldn't be telling you it's a problem.
I hope it goes through. I hope it goes through before Friday. I fear it won't though.'"
AP hasn't commented on Rangi Chase, Its a HDM journalist,
James Smailes has said the only problem is 'time',
the visa will be allowed, not a question of 'If' - but 'when'.
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| Quote ="Dettoriman"If it was that simple Adam Pearson wouldn't be telling you it's a problem.
I hope it goes through. I hope it goes through before Friday. I fear it won't though.'"
Adam Pearson isn`t telling us its a problem, its the local rag that are running the story with no quotes from anybody, i have no doubts Adam has done his homework about the visa issue before getting involved with contract negotiations
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| Quote ="Dettoriman"If it was that simple Adam Pearson wouldn't be telling you it's a problem. '"
And where exactly has he done that?
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| Quote ="Dettoriman"If it was that simple Adam Pearson wouldn't be telling you it's a problem.
I hope it goes through. I hope it goes through before Friday. I fear it won't though.'"
You really don't understand the city of Hull in derby week.
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| Quote ="Dettoriman"If it was that simple Adam Pearson wouldn't be telling you it's a problem.
I hope it goes through. I hope it goes through before Friday. I fear it won't though.'"
Don't worry about it he'll be here soon
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"You really don't understand the city of Hull in derby week.'"
Nail on the head..
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Don't worry about it he'll be here soon'"
What baffles me is most fans not just hull fc fans have called rangi chase.....a thug, a one trick pony.
Now hes on the verge of signing for hull fc your fans cant wait for him to pull a black and white shirt on and hes become the best thing since sliced bread.
Whats changed.
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| Quote ="poppys mum"What baffles me is most fans not just hull fc fans have called rangi chase.....a thug, a one trick pony.
=#0080BFNow hes on the verge of signing for hull fc your fans cant wait for him to pull a black and white shirt on and hes become the best thing since sliced bread.
Whats changed.'"
If you're going to answer your own questions it can get boring!
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| HDMsport @HDMsport
We are picking up news of a potential loan signing for #HullFC today. Chasing full details at present......more to come.
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| Quote ="Smiggs"HDMsport @HDMsport
We are picking up news of a potential loan signing for #HullFC today. Chasing full details at present......more to come.'"
It gets better!
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| Quote ="weaver93"Chris28 is an employee of UKBA'"
HOW VERY DARE YOU Not worked there for 7+ years
Quote he has clearly stated, the stipulations required for Chase to move to Hull FC.
The conviction in 2011, has no bearing ,IF it was, he would be not allowed back in the country in 2011 after his court case.'"
The conviction is relevant, and will be a factor in any visa change. My view (albeit not in possession of the full facts) is that he had a visa for the UK, went home for a court case and was convicted. When he returned, the conviction would/should have been mentioned to the immigration officer at the airport as a significant change of circumstances potentially affecting the visa. He was then clearly admitted to the UK, so it would be perverse for UKBA to refuse now on that basis. Of course if the conviction wasn't mentioned when he came back....
Quote The only thing Chase needs to do, is to amend his change of employer to Hull FC.
Also,he could state changes in his application, eg He is now a parent of a UK citizen, (coupled with the child's mother is also a UK citizen.), no Government would deny a working visa, to a parent who has a UK born child.
Its possible, to get a same day service for a fee, but that is purely dependant , if the UKBA office has available appointments .'"
I know someone who can help with appointments
Quote IMO- It will just take time - no dramas.'"
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| could the loan signing be to replace crooks Who's out injured?
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| The only difference between Ryan McGoldrick and Rangi Chase's visa amendment is 'timing'
When Hull FC made an application for the 'Premium Service' for Ryan McGoldrick,the only UKBA office which had available appointments for that week was in London.
Maybe there are no available appointments this week, there are only 7 offices in the UK which can offer same day service, its not easy to get a 'Premium Service',as i have had experience in this matter.
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| Quote ="weaver93"The only difference between Ryan McGoldrick and Rangi Chase's visa amendment is 'timing'
When Hull FC made an application for the 'Premium Service' for Ryan McGoldrick,the only UKBA office which had available appointments for that week was in London.
Maybe there are no available appointments this week, there are only 7 offices in the UK which can offer same day service, its not easy to get a 'Premium Service',as i have had experience in this matter.'"
If you know the right people though
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| If we do sign chase on loan until the end of the season could he come on his current visa and allow us to work out any details during the close season for a permanent signing?
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