Can we have a blunder list on the 1st page just to remind us what the last administration gave us.

I'll add 2 x salary cap, Paul Cooke, and the lack of a training facility.

It's because they're mostly thick and therefore can't handle subtlety. The sad thing is that they think they're really clever. Pitiful really.

See above. If you're going to compile a list you really ought to check it at least twice.

Only the tip of the iceberg I'm afraid

Never mind Gleeson or Castleford.. Will you be taking action against Rule and co. after you lost the £20 bet that Cas would finish above us in the league?

I really hope you sign Senior.

As for the rest, i really wouldnt bother jumping up and down, you lot have had your share

Quote ="Ovid"Gleeson is considering legal action against the club, according to The Daily Star: www.dailystar.co.uk/rugby/view/2 ... -drug-ban/'" I don't think its a shock that other players may have now taken the substance based on the supplier and been told its OK. I would however be surprised if that just involves our club. Based on the person supplying it could easily have ended up with mates on either side of the M62.

Quote ="Ovid"Gleeson is considering legal action against the club, according to The Daily Star: www.dailystar.co.uk/rugby/view/2 ... -drug-ban/'" I don't think its a shock that other players may have now taken the substance based on the supplier and been told its OK. I would however be surprised if that just involves our club. Based on the person supplying it could easily have ended up with mates on either side of the M62.

1) The Reardon debacle
=#000080Only a 'debacle' on here. Minor news everywhere else. And[u I doubt the decision to sign him was Rule's[/u.
=#BF0000A 'purely subjective statement' on your part there, surely?
2) The Challenge Cup registration debacle
=#000080Fair enough - and he admitted to the erroe.
3) Taking spin to excessive and unnecessary levels.
=#0000BFA purely subjective statement, generally made by people who don't understand marketing.
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I understand well enough that it was detrimental to a lot of fans' view of how the club treats them.
4) Lying to the fans about the club owing no money to anyone
=#0000BFEconomical with the truth at the very least.
5) Missing a match to go on a boozy weekend in Dublin when the club is in crisis
=#0000FFThis really is a nonsense, as was pointed out at the time.
=#FF0000Did he really not miss a match to go to Dublin? I genuinely thought he did.
6) The Crocker debacle
=#0000BFCrocker was denied a visa due to a change in the rules and a new administrator in Australia. How exactly was this Rule's fault?
=#FF0000It was his job to be on top of issues like that and plan ahead.

What are you afraid of?

Being made to look a numptie fool once again?

Surely you must be used to it by now.

How very festive of you

Me, take money off a bloke whose career and reputation are in tatters?

Nah, I wouldn't do it, even to a twunt like Jimmy Rule

I was the biggest one on the thread until you showed up again

Only the tip of the iceberg, much more to come

lol philip

Whilst everyone loves to be able to say "I told you so" (I could start a long list myself) I'm not entirely convinced that this somehow proves Rule was completely useless in all areas of his job. Mainly because nobody actually knows what his job description actually was, his job title is meaningless if he was just the puppet as many have claimed. The current scandal shows that he was a complete numpty on this occasion, that is all. Whilst some of the praise for him may have been misguided in the past, but entirely understandable on face value in IMO, it's still a leap to now claim that you somehow know all about the day to day running of the club and was able to evaluate Rules performance during his whole tenure. Regardless of any of that I feel a lot safer knowing who we have running the club now.

I really wouldnt if i were you.

Mind you your lot are not harbouring a violent racist thug anymore so its all ok.

Untill Keef gets there

Shouldn't Gleeson be taking action against his best mate for suppling the pills

I reckon Long has a squeaky bum at the moment

Love the way some people are turning this into some kind of personal glory thread, haha.

Plenty of people doubted Kath, Agar and Rule. Is everything they did wrong or bad? No of course not they had some successes and some failures. As many fans have said for some time changes were required and now they have been made we should be looking forward.

Still if some egos are in need of a boost....best get those socks out.

I am sure I will get shot down in flames for this..and have to say I don't necessarily take the view myself.. but while we are now painting a picture of Rule as some sort of pariah going to any lengths to somehow save his own ass as CEO of the club is it just possible he wrongly got involved because he just wanted to save somebody's career after a total cock up?

How nice of Pookie to take this discussion out of the playground and post an interesting comment. The trouble with trying to pull the wool over the eyes of an official body like this is that generally, the truth comes out eventually.

Aye. When you deal with spin as routinely as he did, the lines get blurred I reckon. It looks like incompetence and maybe arrogance to me, rather than malevolence. Honesty and straightforwardness have come to be seen as for the naive and old fashioned in certain quarters. Spin works, but if you go too far, even for reasons you believe to be good, you can still come a cropper spectacularly. Blair and WMD, while obviously on a massively different scale, being the prime example of the malaise. IMO.

Largepants - It's difficult to know if the truth generally comes out. We don't ever know about the undetected lies.

There is more bad news to come for your "great" club in the next week or so, should be very pleasant reading for the red and white half of the city! All the best

It's fair to say that his actions actually scuppered any chance of self-preservation rather than saved his skin.

As was asked a few times last night, 'Why do it?'. There was nothing to be gained. If he was looking to save his own skin, he'd have fed Gleeson to the wolves. The only motivation I can see was that the board saw Gleeson as paramount to Agar's 'resurgence', Rule decided to try to protect him, and it all went mammaries up.

Either that or others were complicit, which would open a whole different black hole.

Hmmm, really?

I suppose its our turn after what your lots have been up to.

Hows the credit rating this coming year?

Let me guess, we cannot afford a new North Stand, East Stand Extension and require £1m to buy our club from King Tut (so we can afford to pay our players)

Hope that its not that, otherwise I would cry.