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| Quote ="des lawson"Kendall M.O.M.?'"
Think Fash got it although Brown ran him close.
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| Quote ="Large Paws"I thought it was announced as 9.5k'"
Decent attendance after the doom and gloom over the last couple of weeks.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Certainly not an enjoyable game and we may have got a bit of luck with that last try but just happy to get the two points and stay fifth.
Not out of the question that we could be fourth in a week's time.
Good performances from Fash, Johnstone and Brown - plus Ma'u continuing to impress, probably our form player over the last few weeks.'"
And still above that lot in the table?
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| Quote ="des lawson"Kendall M.O.M.?'"
In a losing team?
Thought one of our players would have got it
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| Quote ="Marcus's Bicycle"That's a real dilemma. If he continues to maintain his form and stays injury free then yes if the contract is commensurate with his age.
As someone mentioned on another thread Mini got another year which was a year too long. I remember when we signed Galea after Rovers released him which turned out to be a shocking signing.'"
We need to get into the mindset of rather letting a player leave a season too early than a season too late. This should be Ma’u’s last season for us, irregardless of how he performs now. We have to look longer term. But I’d agree - he was brilliant tonight.
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| Might have been mentioned earlier in the thread but Gale’s kicking out of hand (not his goal kicking, which was ultimately part of why we won today) was atrocious today. Too deep, didn’t give our team chance to get to the ball and ultimately gave us little direction in attack. Only the one kick towards the end that hit the post pads, and the grubber to touch once we needed to run the clock down, could be deemed as half decent. As raised a few posts back, we massively miss this aspect of Sneyd’s game.
On current evidence, we need to make sure we’re not in a position where we have to use Gale next season (if he has a clause after a number of appearances this year, I’d steer away from that becoming fixed)
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| Quote ="Marcus's Bicycle"That's a real dilemma. If he continues to maintain his form and stays injury free then yes if the contract is commensurate with his age.
As someone mentioned on another thread Mini got another year which was a year too long. I remember when we signed Galea after Rovers released him which turned out to be a shocking signing.'"
Mini got his extra to try and make up for the cash he lost in investing in a club sponsor who went bust. Right or wrong, that’s why it happened.
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| A game we really did try and give away today and yet the winning margin could have been so much greater if not for schoolboy errors.
Our play of the ball is still too slow.
Our almost static defensive line.
Still too lateral.
Poor last play options.
And our reluctance to put pressure on the opposition kicker.
That said the effort was there and they never gave up.
Pleased to be on the right side of a narrow winning margin for a change though.
Hopefully this will provide impetus and confidence for next week.
Nice to see Powell still moaning even though this is 1 of the poorest Warrington teams I've seen for a while.
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| Taylor back next week.
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| good win today, eating my humble pie about Fash .Well played lad, also thought Johnstone had a decent game, a lot knock him on here but for me he starts next week. Effort commitment there in bucket loads, Hearing Taylor might be back next week to, Again well played lads
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| Well anyone who didn’t enjoy that, wasn’t at the game, it was gripping stuff, played by two teams who are not at their best, they both gave everything, and the atmosphere was superb, how Warrington stood firm against the rampaging Ligi, Chris, Fashy was testament to the desire of both teams, perhaps not the best quality but great entertainment.
A small number of wire fans, three coach loads helped the atmosphere, the east stand was also caught up in the spectacle, I leaped to my feet at the end, punching the air with pride and relief, oh for just a little percentage of that endeavour in the previous two games, well played both teams.
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| First and foremost great to see a win and
Barometers out time - joint 5th
So how it works is, we should finish 4-6th
Great to see a winning try at the end of a game as well.
some analysis -
Offloads - 4-5 I counted maximum, awful statistic for a couple of reasons.
The defenders can commit 3 tacklers as they know there’s no offload. This slows us down tremendously. Allows Opposition D to regroup every tackle.
Also no support play!! again allows defenders to commit 3 players to a tackle.
You can’t beat top sides without offloads and support plays. It allows quick play the balls if only 2 defenders tackle an FC player.
This is what I meant by 5 drives and a kick.
Last kick options very poor as well.
We have created the least amount of drop outs in SL this season.
Also I saw a kick go up from Jake and the centre and winger weren’t even ready and didn’t even pressure.
Who played number 6 today - no seriously who was it ?
You can’t get to the CC or GF without a great 6
Why can’t Brett play Jake at 6 and find the next Pappenhausen - just an example of how Munster and Pappa play off each other.
Will we ever see Jake taking an offload off a 2nd row like Jamie took off Lane today.
That was beautiful from both players.
Jake also saw the Clarke try but was too slow to tackle him.Watch how Jake tries but is too slow. I think the Clarke try also epitomises just where we are at times.
It was inexcusable on many levels.
as an aside - Storm played 2 trick plays off the scrum. They score off one and make 30m off the other and both same play.
You’d think we might try something exactly the same! why not ?
Munsters try was utter class but I don’t see anyone trying the drop off dummy pass then scoot into the gap
I once saw Rob Nolan score the same type of try for Rovers in the CC v Ideal Isberg.
Just an aside but why don’t we copy some of the amazing things we see in the NRL ?
anyways a win is a bloody win and the dressing room will love that. Training is better next week and more fans may come to the Cats game.
At least we are assured of a play off place LoL
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| Quote ="Tarquin Fuego"First and foremost great to see a win and
Barometers out time - joint 5th
So how it works is, we should finish 4-6th
Great to see a winning try at the end of a game as well.
some analysis -
Offloads - 4-5 I counted maximum, awful statistic for a couple of reasons.
The defenders can commit 3 tacklers as they know there’s no offload. This slows us down tremendously. Allows Opposition D to regroup every tackle.
Also no support play!! again allows defenders to commit 3 players to a tackle.
You can’t beat top sides without offloads and support plays. It allows quick play the balls if only 2 defenders tackle an FC player.
This is what I meant by 5 drives and a kick.
Last kick options very poor as well.
We have created the least amount of drop outs in SL this season.
Also I saw a kick go up from Jake and the centre and winger weren’t even ready and didn’t even pressure.
Who played number 6 today - no seriously who was it ?
You can’t get to the CC or GF without a great 6
Why can’t Brett play Jake at 6 and find the next Pappenhausen - just an example of how Munster and Pappa play off each other.
Will we ever see Jake taking an offload off a 2nd row like Jamie took off Lane today.
That was beautiful from both players.
Jake also saw the Clarke try but was too slow to tackle him.Watch how Jake tries but is too slow. I think the Clarke try also epitomises just where we are at times.
It was inexcusable on many levels.
as an aside - Storm played 2 trick plays off the scrum. They score off one and make 30m off the other and both same play.
You’d think we might try something exactly the same! why not ?
Munsters try was utter class but I don’t see anyone trying the drop off dummy pass then scoot into the gap
I once saw Rob Nolan score the same type of try for Rovers in the CC v Ideal Isberg.
Just an aside but why don’t we copy some of the amazing things we see in the NRL ?
anyways a win is a bloody win and the dressing room will love that. Training is better next week and more fans may come to the Cats game.
At least we are assured of a play off place LoL'"
I agree we don’t turn teams around enough with a short kicking game, we seem to have adopted the tactical kicking high to the wings on the last play, it actually worked well today with magnificent defence.
The Clarke try took everyone by surprise, 99% are stopped by referees waiting for a retreating defence to set, or mostly Danny would be there to stop it.
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| Quote ="des lawson"Kendall M.O.M.?'"
Don't be bitter Des. He's robbed us enough times, so we were due a bit of good fortune.
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| Quote ="Hessle Roader"Don't be bitter Des. He's robbed us enough times, so we were due a bit of good fortune.'"
He tried to rob us twice near the of this game with two very questionable decisions
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Is it barometer time yet? We're 5th having played everyone except Toulouse and Catalans I think?'"
Barometer only needs 9 matches so can be put away until next season. Super League table today is the predicted season finish. So Saints 1st and Toulouse last. Top 6 Saints, Wigan, Catalans, Huddersfield, Hull and HKR in more or less that order.
How did it go in the Covid ravaged 2021 season? Predicted correctly Catalans 1, Saints 2 and Leigh last.
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| Missed the game due to work, so I look forward to watching it later in the week. Sounded like a gritty win, making the yards, getting territory and failing to turn it into points, which seems a similar pattern. I've seen people mention out last tackle plays, but this has been a problem the last few year, even with Sneyd it was poor and we relied on the high cross field bomb.
Three poor tries to concede, the first one is awful, really poor concentration, the other two look at be Mcintosh's fault.
If we can win the next two we are in a strong position.
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| hard to believe it wasn`t a full house judging by the volume of noise.had to turn my volume right up to hear what the commentators were saying.but a good win for the team.
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| Quote ="edinburgh yorkie"hard to believe it wasn`t a full house judging by the volume of noise.had to turn my volume right up to hear what the commentators were saying.but a good win for the team.'"
Think the tannoy guy said 9,300 EY, after the last two offerings, this had a great atmosphere. Fash Ligy and JB outstanding. Don’t understand these thirty yard passes from Jake to Darnel when receiving the ball on our own line though. We weren’t perfect by any means, but it felt like massive pressure was lifted at the end, thoroughly enjoyable, and two valuable points in a season the trap door could capture an established team.
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| Quote ="Riderofthepalehorse"The Clarke try took everyone by surprise, 99% are stopped by referees waiting for a retreating defence to set, or mostly Danny would be there to stop it.'"
This^^^^^
I think FC have been prevented from taking quick taps on several occasions this season. Both Swift and Macintosh have taken the ball in goal, ran to the 20, ref stopped them taking the tap because opposition defence not set, also at least 2 occasions at penalties. Same old inconsistency, twice on Friday, Macintosh adjudged to have knocked on when the ball went clearly backwards and yesterday, Gale pinged for not playing the ball correctly, when stood on his feet. Wonder if that’s why Referee Smith gave the on field decision as a try. No one has mentioned Evans head high, I can see him being cited? So Taylor’s back next week, no match fitness and we lose Fash and possibly Evans?
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| Quote ="Riderofthepalehorse"
I mentioned Connor’s long passes yesterday and they’ve stood out for a while. When the ball’s obviously going to Connor, why on earth Macintosh doesn’t move inside to take the ball, I don’t understand. By the time it’s in his hands the defence is on him.
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| For me we got out of jail by the skin of our teeth but 2pts is 2pts and I'll take them however they come. For me it was two teams in very poor form and low on confidence which showed. As many have said our last tackle plays are awful and far too many times we look as though we don't have any idea come the last play in the set. We did all we could in effort to win the game yet we also did the opposite to give the game away the Clarke try being one that really is inexcusable on all levels as every one turned their back to the play and just shows that we all too often switch off in games. Though McIntosh was unfortunate with the dropped ball but the 3rd try where he jammed in again was a poor one to concede.
The effort yesterday couldn't be faulted but the application and execution is still off by some way, at time there were some decent things the Lane off load to Shaul being one highlight. We are very disjointed and clunky with little fluency in attack and our support play was lacking as a number of occasions players made a break/bust a tackle and looked to make an off load but no one was backing up which again is a sign to not being switched on or fully focused.
For all the criticism Johnstones had I thought he did well so deserves credit, whilst not being dynamic he was solid defensively but he isn't a 9 that will make a break and Clarke showed what a difference a 9 with a bit of speed and guile can make.
The long passes when Connor has received the ball are also losing us metres as by the time the ball has been released and caught the oppostion are on top of whoever has received it, so Connor needs to either run the ball back himself to gain field position or the backs need to get an awful lot closer when the kicks been put in.
Still an awful lot to work on and improve.
As for Kendall I thought he was generally poor all round and for both sides with a number of decisions, I also can not fathom out the difference in regards the way he gives 6 again as he seemed quite lenient with Wire slowing us down with hands on the ball and laying on etc yet trigger happy with us.
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| It was a much improved performance from what we have seen in recent weeks. A gutsy effort given the short turnaround. Sure we had some luck but you take it when it goes for you, Fash and Carlos stood out for me.
Feel like a mention has to go to Jordan Johnstone too, he cops a lot of stick from supporters but he gives it everything for the shirt. His distribution for the most part was quick and accurate and it helped speed us up in attack, a bit of a contrast to good friday!
also think Evans is slowly but surely improving on his game, fingers crossed we see more of him in the coming weeks.
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| Quote ="Armavinit"This^^^^^
I think FC have been prevented from taking quick taps on several occasions this season. Both Swift and Macintosh have taken the ball in goal, ran to the 20, ref stopped them taking the tap because opposition defence not set, also at least 2 occasions at penalties. Same old inconsistency, twice on Friday, Macintosh adjudged to have knocked on when the ball went clearly backwards and yesterday, Gale pinged for not playing the ball correctly, when stood on his feet. [iWonder if that’s why Referee Smith gave the on field decision as a try[/i. '"
I think this was a factor. He knew he'd screwed up badly on Gale. That said, Kendal circled around the back of the tackle to see the grounding from a completely different angle to the Sky cameras. He was visibly happy with what he saw. 76.20 on the Sky coverage.
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| Quote ="HU8HFC"It was a much improved performance from what we have seen in recent weeks. A gutsy effort given the short turnaround. Sure we had some luck but you take it when it goes for you, Fash and Carlos stood out for me.
Feel like a mention has to go to Jordan Johnstone too, he cops a lot of stick from supporters but he gives it everything for the shirt. His distribution for the most part was quick and accurate and it helped speed us up in attack, a bit of a contrast to good friday!
also think Evans is slowly but surely improving on his game, fingers crossed we see more of him in the coming weeks.'"
Personally think Evans is coming along fine, we just need to get more minutes out of him. He averaged 9 metres pet carry yesterday which is not bad at all. He also doesn't hide in defence, gets through plenty of work.
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