If Gleeson leaves I would move Horne to centre as it would shore up our defence down that side, and he is good near the line.

He has still been poor at half back though, his kicking on Friday in the first half was dreadful, and a better side would have capitalized on those errors.

seems to divide opinons doesnt he, for me he will play better with a good num 7 next to him, still got something to offer imo

Agreed. I just made this point on this week's Dentist's Diary thread:

IMO he's had his best season for about three years.

He has good positional awareness, is good defensively, is one of the few FC players to back up the ball carrier and I was surprised at the amount of pace he had when breaking through to score his try on Friday.

The only thing that lets him down is his kicking game which remains poor, arguably too poor for a first choice SL half back.

you mean like Catalan..oh hang on

absolutely bang on the money there, well said.
and he has NEVER been a kicker and will gladly hand over that duty to the new guys coming in but agree he is having a good all round season

Keep Horne away from the long kicking game and he is a very good no.6. Very much doubt he will play centre, AP has already said we are looking to strengthen the right hand side.

Totally agree, very poor kicking game, lost a lot of speed, predictable,a very very average player. I hope Ellis has a good pre-season as although it was only NL1 which we can measure his performance on he looked far better than Horne with ball in hand and his kicking game was spot on, Horney for cover for me.

id rather Horne be in the team than not, and all these going on about his kicking game, Horne has NEVER had a long kicking game, his support play is good, his defence is good, ok, not what it was before his neck injury, but hes still a good defender, get a good 7 next to him and we'll see the Horne of old. that im sure

but thats kind of the point, he's never been a top 4 quality 6, even at his best, he is a great support player buut he just doesn't have the attacking option we need to break into the top 4 regularly.

Nice idea, it would help us next season alot

I'm not convinced, he is a good player and a lot more reliable than Horne, he is just too "expensive" in terms of quota/fed spots if we really want to chase the top of the table.

I've already set aside my season pass money for next year, if AP says buy in October then I'll trust him, if that trust is misplaced then I guess I wont be alone in walking away from the club, and it will be a once and for all decision.

Horne is slow with decision making often taking a poor option and his kicking is awful! He falls off too many tackles these days too. Well down in the pecking order of SuperLeague stand offs IMO.

In what way?

I like Horney and think he has come in for a lot of unfair stick we all know he is a running half with a decent short kicking game but has been forced to take on the organising role which does not suit him, hopefully next season with either Seymor or Ellis alongside him to take the team around the field, we will see horney back to his best.

Horney has not had the benefit of having a quality halfback partner since 'he who shall not be mentioned' left, when we had the likes of Dykes, Matty Head and Long he was unfortunate to be injured; or they were. Richard Horne is one of the games ever reliable's, one of those players every club needs, but is never give enough credit for the effort that he puts in.

There are times more often than not he's had to carry the burden of being 'chief' play-maker; something he has never been, or professed to be.
Of late he has been in a team that has been badly lacking in 'ANY' sort of play-makers at all. I have been more than happy with his performances this season (all things considered)

great post

Same here Standee, i was adamant i would not get a pass, if at the end of this season, agar was still here, now AP telling us to get the passes in october, im in a dilema of what to do, i want to purchase our passes, but would be extremely disappointed if come start of next season, Agars still in charge!

take them back, thats what we will do

Take the risk mate

Yeah, may well do, but ill be well p*ssed of if Agars here at the start of the season

Couldn't you buy passes at the discounted rate until December last year? Won't be buying mine until agar is gone

thats what i was thinking, we have reserved seats, and i couldnt remember when your seat went on general sale to the public??

I always wait until December to buy mine so I won't be happy if I have to decide in October. I want to know whether Agar is going and how many matches will be played on Fridays/Sundays.

Not bothered about friday/sunday debate,luckily either suits me, its Agar thats worrying me!