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| Quote ="MorningGlory23"I want Houghton in the middle when our forwards are fucccccked, like I said nothing stopping lovudua going in to dummy half. I’m not saying you couldn’t spell Houghton, but trying to put blame on Houghton for that performance, when he was bar far the least of the problems is a joke'"
No one’s blaming Houghton but it’s the tactic/game plan that’s all wrong in expecting Houghton to play 80 mins week in week out without it being detrimental to the team. He can’t do it anymore and it’s pretty clear we need to spell him
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| Quote ="Dave K."What has to happen to take Houghton off?'"
A word from Adam Pearson in the ear of this coach would help.
would also be worth asking why Johnstone is continually selected as an extra forward rather than as as an interchange for Houghton particularly given the size of Huddersfields pack.
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| Lovodua HAS to spell Houghton from now on. Our 6 and 7 are fit, play them there. Get Joey in where he was signed to play. Bringing on a fresh hooker would make a massive difference.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Agree, if we could sign a decent FB with pace and a passing and move Connor into the halfs. Must have thr slowest 1,6 and 7 in SL.
Once Carlos is back, play Griffin in the backrow, makes so many meters, but looks to have lost a yard of pace after his injury.'"
I agree with that. Griffin plays the game as a second row anyway, might aswell play him there and use a centre who can actually score when they pick up a loose ball 40 yards out with nobody in front of them.
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| Been out and missed the game. How bad was it?
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| Quote ="Chris71"Sorry but Houghton looked spent and out in his feet halfway through second half and it showed. We can’t continue flogging him for 80 mins and expect any different outcome. Thought his distribution left a lot to be desired.'"
Don’t be sorry, just be concerned about the rest of our players fitness if you think Houghton was spent , he still managed to be first in to the tackle from 60-80 mins, I wouldn’t mind if we was constantly on the attack and our problems are from dummy half. But complaining about Houghtons fitness and defence is beyond a joke. We where terrible today, picking out Houghton in that performance I really can’t get
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| Quote ="mwindass"Been out and missed the game. How bad was it?'"
Too many went missing, poor all round and poor coaching and selections. Very little in positives to be honest.
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| Quote ="mwindass"Been out and missed the game. How bad was it?'"
Hudds miles better team and deserved the win, we hung in there.
Loads of errors
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| Also think we look unfit this year, Satae particularly, should be on the bench against Rovers. Evans although not great took 3 drives one set, Satae needs to up his workrate.
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| Might give the match replay a miss then...
It sounded pretty poor following it on twitter
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| Quote ="Chris71"No one’s blaming Houghton but it’s the tactic/game plan that’s all wrong in expecting Houghton to play 80 mins week in week out without it being detrimental to the team. He can’t do it anymore and it’s pretty clear we need to spell him'"
How is it clear, how many tackles did he miss, how many tackles did he make compared to the rest of the team, making statements like he needs to spelled, what does it take for Houghton to be taking off etc etc, suggests Houghtons at fault, playing poorly, etc, yes blame the coach, but let’s not make a scape goat out of Houghton for such a poor team performance
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| Quote ="Dave K."Agree, if we could sign a decent FB with pace and a passing and move Connor into the halfs. Must have thr slowest 1,6 and 7 in SL.
Once Carlos is back, play Griffin in the backrow, makes so many meters, but looks to have lost a yard of pace after his injury.'"
Against a big Huddersfield team in the forwards Playing Griffin in the second row would have been a smart move then we could have played Connor Wynne at centre who is much more of a threat at centre than Griffin, and left out Johnstone.
Carlos will not be back for the derby
Beginning to think like you we may have to use Connor at six and find a full back with pace and more positional sense as he was nowhere to be seen for McQueens try
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| Quote ="bonaire"Against a big Huddersfield team in the forwards Playing Griffin in the second row would have been a smart move then we could have played Connor Wynne at centre who is much more of a threat at centre than Griffin, and left out Johnstone.
Carlos will not be back for the derby
Beginning to think like you we may have to use Connor at six and find a full back with pace and more positional sense as he was nowhere to be seen for McQueens try'"
I'm starting to agree too, that Connor shouldn't be our long term full back. However I don't blame him for the McQueen try. It was 1st tackle and he was just shadowing the ball, it was a nice heads up play by Giants. It's poor to see him not been able to get anywhere near Lolohea though
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| Quote ="Hasbag"We really need pace. Centres and a full back with pace would be a dream.'"
What? Griffin is lightning fast,great defence,and the ball handling skills of a Harlem Globetrotter and how he is not an England International ill never know
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| Quote ="Dave K."Also think we look unfit this year, Satae particularly, should be on the bench against Rovers. Evans although not great took 3 drives one set, Satae needs to up his workrate.'"
He is carrying a lower leg injury
Dont know who makes the decision to play whether its the player or the physio dept in this case
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| We looked better with McNamara and lovodua in the halves than gale and Reynolds
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| No structure
I think we turned up to blaise, just rock up its the cup throw the ball about, could sense it in the warm up interviews.
Criminally under used the props
And we need a clear leader, as some of the ends to the sets of 6 still leave alot to be desired even after sneyds departure.
Satae looked knackered 10 minutes on, clearly not match fit.
Griffin for me has been poor this season, often putting us under pressure with errors or brain darts or general sloppiness. Often smoothed over by an odd decent carry. Needs to do better.
Mentality all wrong today we should of won the forward battle first and foremost, but tried playing like the harlem globe trotters while getting the basics very wrong
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| I said pre match on here . We make the same mistakes over n over again
Players are Not 100% fit playing busted comes back to bite you on the butt. Yes we know experience counts but if not fully fit ,then use the squad depth
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| Quote ="Steve0"We looked better with McNamara and lovodua in the halves than gale and Reynolds'"
if the forwards dont get us on top the halves cannot perform.
Just look at Leeds.Two top class halves but no forward power to lay a platform
Indiscipline is our Achilles heel and the coach seemingly cannot do anything about it
The first half was a disaster with five errors and five penalties and obvious lack of possession but yet had it not been another brain fart by our future England International centre we still could have snatched the win
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| Quote ="bonaire"if the forwards dont get us on top the halves cannot perform.
Just look at Leeds.Two top class halves but no forward power to lay a platform
Indiscipline is our Achilles heel and the coach seemingly cannot do anything about it
The first half was a disaster with five errors and five penalties and obvious lack of possession but yet had it not been another brain fart by our future England International centre we still could have snatched the win'" you really are boring going on about Griffin. We get it ok
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| Quote ="bonaire"if the forwards dont get us on top the halves cannot perform.
Just look at Leeds.Two top class halves but no forward power to lay a platform
Indiscipline is our Achilles heel and the coach seemingly cannot do anything about it
The first half was a disaster with five errors and five penalties and obvious lack of possession but yet had it not been another brain fart by our future England International centre we still could have snatched the win'"
What makes you think Leeds have two top class half’s?
The best half we had is playing for you!
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| Quote ="bonaire"
Just look at Leeds.Two top class halves '"
What on earth?!
Leeds halves are probably the main reason they are so terrible.
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| disappointing performance yesterday..
totally outmuscled by a huddersfield pack, who ran direct, we were the opposite .
i felt our bench selection was questionable , excluding Evans, the other 3 offer no size,especially JJ.
Had we selected Grub, Fash, Evans & Bowden, imo, that has a better balance ,
individual errors cost us dearly again ,Griffin last week with a loose carry ,this week , a scruffy ptb, then another loose carry. Satae looks unfit, only lasted 10 minutes in his 2nd spell.
we go again ......
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| So called "Big time" players on big time money bottling it again
Said it for ages... another big game Connor is anonymous
Dave Chris noticed yet lads....?
"Houghton best hooker in the league" to our fans
Hes never been close to a England call up cause he's bang average
Still we'll win a Derby next week
Or maybe we'll start realising winnng trophys is better than beating the minnows across the road
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| There'll be no, new, shiny Tottenham stadium for us to visit in Londinium.
Such is life.
Well, it'd cost a small fortune in, travel, hotels and spendies.
Would only have got p!sshe'd all weekend.
Missed a full round of NRL.
And probably got our @rses handed to us cos we ain't very good.
Silver linings and all that.......................
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