Quote ="IR80"Having watched the NRL games this weekend I can see why RL in England & France is on it's knees.Manley were made to look poor by The Storm, but they would still beat anyone in SL if played during their season. the standard of rugby in SL is dire, as is the entertainment value.'" The two George Tuffour tackles were worth the admission fee alone. Or even Jorge Taufua for the afficionados OUCH!!!! https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-pr ... 6b8c9415d0

Quote ="IR80"Having watched the NRL games this weekend I can see why RL in England & France is on it's knees.Manley were made to look poor by The Storm, but they would still beat anyone in SL if played during their season. the standard of rugby in SL is dire, as is the entertainment value.'" The two George Tuffour tackles were worth the admission fee alone. Or even Jorge Taufua for the afficionados OUCH!!!! https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-pr ... 6b8c9415d0

Quote ="WIZEB"The two George Tuffour tackles were worth the admission fee alone. Or even Jorge Taufua for the afficionados OUCH!!!! https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-pr ... 6b8c9415d0'" Indeed, brutal, but fair!

Quote ="WIZEB"The two George Tuffour tackles were worth the admission fee alone. Or even Jorge Taufua for the afficionados OUCH!!!! https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-pr ... 6b8c9415d0'" Indeed, brutal, but fair!

Yup, both on the money.
Aggression has departed on holiday from the KCOM.
Our new NRL forwards coming in will hopefully bring us some nastiness.

To try and stop the rather vitriolic exchanges I will try and summarise what's happened so we can all move forward:
1. We lost in very disappointing fashion on Friday
2. Some posters said they felt at their lowest ebb in decades (let's call them Group A)
3. Some other posters felt this was surprising/daft in the context of other events/tenures during this time - including possible extinction. (Group B - but mainly me I guess)
4. Group A then come back with we should be doing much better, we're a big club
5. Group B then say well technically we're not as big as we'd like to think we are (Dean Friedman style) based on objective financial measures and Super League history (where there's a very strong correlation), so maybe there's a disconnect between expectation and realism. Not to say aspirations should be dialed down, just expectations may need to be better managed.
6. Group B gets accused of (I kid you not) attacks, insults, being vomit-inducing, crazy, boring, a fool, garbage, persecuting, self-righteous, insulting, needing banning, needs to get a life...there are a lot more but you get the gist.

Perhaps to sort all this out a list of these attacks and insults I've been made can be set out, so I can address each in turn and apologise as required - genuinely. I really don't think that I've given out anything like the rather nasty personal attacks made to me in 6 above, but if we want to conclude this slightly unsavoury dialogue let's have the specifics. I won't ask for the reciprocation, but I notice one of the main protagonists has already deleted his most extreme/personal post yesterday, so I will take that as a token of regret.

Chris71, I apologise for posting a laughing emoji when you posted that this was your lowest point for 40 years. You are right, I shouldn't assume I know what others are feeling and their own experiences.

I do hope so. I haven't seen the interview with Ma'u yet in RL World I think but he will help - certainly coming with a reputation. As said already I think Satae looks the part too and Jones should bring plenty. Although still squad is still a prop short for me.

We can look forward to more bore fest and no attack, yay!

it wasn't meant to be an insult. I just hope for all fans we show some fight and maybe get a result at cas. Not holding my breath though.

Hopefully the old leader of the Junior Don Kings will be an aggression accelerant for 2020.

I think this is a bit disingenuous personally. We've scored some fantastic tries this year though Naulago for example and Griffin as a line breaking centre will likely win POTY. It's not like our tries are mainly bargeovers. One of our key challenges has been the availability, and even then the fitness, of Kelly whom we rely on probably too much to conjure up something from nothing. This issue needs resolving in the off season.

Well in either blind loyalty or stupidity I'll be there Thursday.
Knowing us we'll come away with a stunning victory

You're on linguistic fire this morning

Of course you do, you clearly see different games to the rest of us, SL in general is poor, and Hull are about as boring as it gets.

Vitriolic abuse and attacks aren't what they used to be

Orwell and Hemingway had their uses.

We've had our moments this season.
If our outside backs get with the programme fo 2020 then we should go alright.
Mau and Jones both love an offload.

From my perspective, AP funds the club exceptionally, training facilities, cryogenics and spends to full cap. Full accountancy aside, which is probably due to the fact that the business side is run on skinny staffing. It’s the performances on the pitch that I just can’t get my head around. Beaten by Hudds. twice, Rovers twice, Salford at home, mauled by Wire, Saints and Hudds. abjectly. Lee Radford has to shoulder the blame, as he has stated, he can’t t get to the bottom of it, that’s his job and if he is incapable of doing it, as he also stated earlier, he should walk. By the way, you don’t have to be an accountant to work out the maths, that, if we had won the games we were capable of doing so, ie. Rovers, Hudds. and Salford, we’d be untouchable in second place. Our coach now says, Cas away becomes the start of knock out rugby, due to his ineptness. I was under the impression that Super League was knock out rugby from day one, after all they are termed weekly rounds. Six weeks ago we were riding high having beaten Leeds at Headingley for the first time in 14 seasons and one game away from another Wembley appearance but again the season has fizzled out. Why fans don’t understand mine and others frustration at abject performances and abject coaching leaves me even more frustrated. AP is lucky to have this club and it’s fanbase, most of us will still roll up and get our passes but if he can’t see what’s happening on the pitch is slowly eroding that loyalty and act to stop it, he’s not the business man I thought he was. Make no mistake, Ian Watson would have had this club at Wembley and vying for Old Trafford but we’re going around with Lee again, same old, same old.

You can see by the way we set up in attack , Radford’s ineptitude.
Our ball movement is woeful. Stand still and pass seems to be our style !
But Radford has done it again. Run off to Pearson and asked for money to spend ! He should be held accountable for the poor recruitment for this season. Ratu apart , where are the others ?
What spell has Radford got Pearson under ?
Other Coaches with Radford’s league record would have gone.

Very unlikely, but it’s a fair point, amazingly we still have the opportunity to do something this season. Rockets up s required rapid

but that is the point "moments", we lack creativity, Houghton is solid but has poor distribution, Kelly is injured more often than not (and if he seriously thinks he'd get an NRL gig he is taking some very potent tablets), Connor isn't a halfback as long as I have a hole in my backside, Radford wants a crash bang wallop side, I want entertaining.

I hear you, but it frustrates me (actually that's probably a bit strong) that people slate Radford/the club for poor recruitment and form all pre season, then slate him for disappointing end to the season, but don't give him any credit for getting to the point of being in the mix, despite this poor recruitment - none of the act of getting us to the brink of the playoffs is down to him apparently.

We have stumbled to 5th position in about the worse quality of rugby league seen in many a year
In being 5th we were utterly spanked at Magic and many many other
matches
You’re right , LR is responsible

Haven't you managed to poach Bellamy for us yet?
I thought you mixed with all the Melbourne shakers and rollers?

Lol I move and shake less as the years go by mate
I’m 51 now - bed by 9.30

However in next 2 months I have a pass out to see

Big Country
Sisters of Mercy
U2

Can’t wait

Careful, you know the more sense you post the more abuse you'll get.

We have had some very good performances too and scored some great tries. The 2 golden point wins were terrific. 6th isn't brilliant but we could be in a dogfight like Leeds, that's real underperformance..