did berro play 22 times last year?? thought he was injured for 15 weeks

Quote ="Dave K."Stats compared to Berrigan. www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2010'" Jesus! 50 tackles busts and 120 kicks in play?! Over 100 more tackles then Berro, too.

Quote ="Dave K."Stats compared to Berrigan. www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2010'" Jesus! 50 tackles busts and 120 kicks in play?! Over 100 more tackles then Berro, too.

Quote ="Dave K."Stats compared to Berrigan. www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2010'" I think he's gonna go well for us and is a great signing. Not every player has to be a world beater. Berrigan was on paper a better player but poor in reality and Obst stats certainly look a lot better.

Quote ="Dave K."Stats compared to Berrigan. www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2010'" I think he's gonna go well for us and is a great signing. Not every player has to be a world beater. Berrigan was on paper a better player but poor in reality and Obst stats certainly look a lot better.

Agreed.

His stats do look impressive, but I hope he doesn't try any crazy s**t in a black and white shirt like kicking 2 40/20's

Agreed, tbf some of us have been slated for saying how average Berro was



No huge expectations (or wage bill

) with Obst he should go well!

Wash your mouth out son

His stats don't even begin to stack up to Richard Horne though who according to many is a spent force.

I think he'll do alright for us and is certainly what we need this year, somebody to interchange with Houghton and a bit of extra cover in the halves.
It's the two years I'm dubious about but I doubt we'd have got him without it. Whether the two years is a good move or not will become clearer as next years recruitment is sorted I suppose.

then compare him with mcguire. www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2010 Look at them stats, wow! Just shows how much quality the leeds team has, we are a long way off from challenging for honors, especially with agar in charge, its fact we will never win anything with agar in charge.

then compare him with mcguire. www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2010 Look at them stats, wow! Just shows how much quality the leeds team has, we are a long way off from challenging for honors, especially with agar in charge, its fact we will never win anything with agar in charge.

What a strange comparison?

Comparing SL best stand off to our bench hooker.

Also isn't Mcguire out for the next three months.

Wouldn't back any team coached by Mcdermott to win anything either.

Obst isn't a world beater but provide good backup and cover for key positions.

Quote ="Dobbo Hull"then compare him with mcguire. www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2010 Look at them stats, wow! Just shows how much quality the leeds team has, we are a long way off from challenging for honors, especially with agar in charge, its fact we will never win anything with agar in charge.'" Comparing Sam Obst's stats to McGuire's, from the 2010 season, shows how we will never win anything with RA in charge?! Truly weird comparison. He's our back-up half/rotating hooker, McGuire is arguably the best in SL.

Quote ="Dobbo Hull"then compare him with mcguire. www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2010 Look at them stats, wow! Just shows how much quality the leeds team has, we are a long way off from challenging for honors, especially with agar in charge, its fact we will never win anything with agar in charge.'" Comparing Sam Obst's stats to McGuire's, from the 2010 season, shows how we will never win anything with RA in charge?! Truly weird comparison. He's our back-up half/rotating hooker, McGuire is arguably the best in SL.

Quote ="Dobbo Hull"then compare him with mcguire. www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2010 Look at them stats, wow! Just shows how much quality the leeds team has, we are a long way off from challenging for honors, especially with agar in charge, its fact we will never win anything with agar in charge.'" You do realise they play in different positions don't you? also McGuire is an International and most players stats will be inferior to his.

Quote ="Dobbo Hull"then compare him with mcguire. www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2010 Look at them stats, wow! Just shows how much quality the leeds team has, we are a long way off from challenging for honors, especially with agar in charge, its fact we will never win anything with agar in charge.'" You do realise they play in different positions don't you? also McGuire is an International and most players stats will be inferior to his.

Don't know if this has been mentioned as I have not read every post. But at the forum Agar said we have missed out on players who wanted 2 year deals, we were only prepared to offer 1 year. Now we have given Obst (who I like by the way) a 2 year deal, what calibre of player have we missed out on who wanted 2 years

Maybe he meant 2 year deals for quota players.

His stats are far better than Hornes for last year,Granted Horney played 13 times and Obst played 23 times.
However Therin lies the problem.

Maybe. But the way it came across was they didn't want to offer anyone a 2 year deal. As if we had already lined up halfbacks for next year. The thing with Obst is it doesnt stop us signing 2 halfbacks next year as I guess he will be expected to play mainly at Hooker. I hope this is the case

Think that might have been scrum halves. Obst is more a hooker who can cover SH.

Hull have plans for the halves next year so won't want to tie up quota spots with 2 year deals.

hes a decent signing thats experienced at super league level that will provide good cover at pivot and hooker but as long as we have 2 good fit halfbacks for 2012 and houghton as hooker then i suppose having obst on a 2 year isnt that bad but if we go into next season with obst as a starting halfback then its bad recruitment

Is Agar looking at playing him fullback for you guys

no mate backup half i presume thats why i put pivot if i thought he was going to play fullback i would of put that

I only mentioned it as we know how obsessed Agar and the fans are about 'pivot' fullbacks

Not just Obst mate,its every player we sign.

I would not use obst as backup.

I would do this, you may not agree with me but i think this would work.

Bring obst in to the half back role with long, move horne to fullback, phelps to in place of sharp (moving briscoe to the wing) then spell whiting as a centre.