Litten, another one, what’s he good at? Enthusiasm? Been poor under high ball, can’t tackle, can’t pass

Bit harsh bagging a young lad whos in his first season. He's probably been played too much but he's had to due to injuries to Hoy and Shaul. There's about a dozen others I'd be looking at before Litten.

You'd like to think they all won't be in the same match day squad though

Just what did people expect before the season started?

We're around about where I thought we'd be, a bottom 4 club, which we have been for the past few seasons. If all the stars aligned I could've seen us make a push for the top 6, but that all went out the window during that 7 game losing run.

The fact that the players have "given up" once we have nothing to play for should come as no surprise to anyone, it's in this groups DNA. See Radford, Last, Hodgson.

Everyone wanted a clear out, and with 10 plus players going out that is what's happening. No all of those played, but they take up cap space that can be used in better areas and a chunk of them leaving are the ones you could blame for setting and upholding the poor "culture" that has plagued the club in recent times.

I don't expect us to reach the play offs next season, it's almost year 0 for me under Smith next season and give us a point to build from. Smith did similar at Rovers, you could argue they went backwards before they went forward under him.

Maybe is but point still stands. Full squad been called out over the season barring Clifford and Swift really.

Hull’s recent record in August and September, the last two months of the season, does not make for pretty reading. Taking 2020 out of the equation (which finished in November due to the Covid lockdowns), the last five seasons have seen them lose 28 of their 32 fixtures. That’s an alarming statistic. https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... e_vignette

Hull’s recent record in August and September, the last two months of the season, does not make for pretty reading. Taking 2020 out of the equation (which finished in November due to the Covid lockdowns), the last five seasons have seen them lose 28 of their 32 fixtures. That’s an alarming statistic. https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... e_vignette

That's grim.
It wouldn't be FC if we headed into the off season with some optimism rather than depression and hand-wringing though would it.

Quote ="mwindass"Hull’s recent record in August and September, the last two months of the season, does not make for pretty reading. Taking 2020 out of the equation (which finished in November due to the Covid lockdowns), the last five seasons have seen them lose 28 of their 32 fixtures. That’s an alarming statistic. https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... e_vignette'" That's incredible on the one hand but completely believable.

Quote ="mwindass"Hull’s recent record in August and September, the last two months of the season, does not make for pretty reading. Taking 2020 out of the equation (which finished in November due to the Covid lockdowns), the last five seasons have seen them lose 28 of their 32 fixtures. That’s an alarming statistic. https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... e_vignette'" That's incredible on the one hand but completely believable.

Need to sign Harry Numan

II think jack walker is your fullback next season.

Would think so Dessie. Gives Litten time to develop, I'd let Litten and Tindall fight it out for a wing spot next season too

I wouldn't be disappointed with that, he was good for us last year and has by all accounts been decent for Rovers, I'd imagine he'd be fairly cheap and saves Litten playing every week when he's not quite ready, but always has that injury concern hanging over him, if the club don't sign a proper 7 next season then I give up.

Anybody know how Staveley got on last night?

You and many others I'd guess.

How can a forward who plays 80 minutes make 5 drives?

Overall out stats from our forwards are terrible.

Saying that and I've said thisca few times our backs do far too much work, I hope with the signings we have made that changes, otherwise we are wasting the potential forward power.

Don’t no why everyone raves about Davy no were near super league standard should be no where near the first team he offers nothing

I'd disagree. He's looked comfortable in most games. He's got errors in his game, but name a 19/20 year old who doesn't.

He looks a bit battered recently due to the amount of games he's played this season.

Litten will play nearly 20 game this year, looked good, for the first 14 or so games, but looks tired now with the demands of SL.

Still got work to do on his game and to bulk up, still think he will make a good SL player

How about Gary Numan and his [iCockwork Army[/i?

Walkers been terrific for us,its a shame we arent keeping him,but if he can stay fit,you wont be disappointed..

I agree give him some time to develop but i have to say he has been bigged up as a future star full back but personally dont think he will as he doesnt have great pace and his link up play like Shaul is missing

I think as soon as anyone from the academy looks half decent they're bigged up too much, he needs time to develop under the radar, he should take shauls place in the squad next season and develop either out on loan or in the reserves, with a smattering of first team where needed. But this season he's been put in the team, played too much and it's starting to take its toll in the kid.

Again i agree with you.
See little point playing him in the reserves.get him out on loan if full back is seen to be his position.
You can see however what the club will do is to play him on the wing

Litten has a lot of improving to do.
Like with Barron, they’re not physically ready for week to week sl. I know posters want to see us blood more young kids but apart from Staveley not sure if they’re physically ready.
Leeds were poor last week and yet beat us comfortably and now they’re getting hammered by wigan.
It’s the same players season after season. It’s depressing.
The thought of watching fc v Huddersfield which is traditionally a grind of a game anyway.
Hopefully Jake Connor can liven the game up. Otherwise I reckon it’s going to be a bore fest !

We've lost to three really poor teams in the last three weeks ,I don't see that changing for the forth week sadly . I just hope its finally hitting home the magnitude of the job Smith needs to address next season .