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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"It's pathetic and worries me more about this appointment than anything. Not sure which is worse - that Radford thinks that it's any way to motivate elite athletes or that pearson agrees.
wire, leeds and wigan have a winning culture about the club, they don't (and can't) frighten players into playing well.
Who the fook would sign for a club who are shouting from the rooftops that they will be managed by fear? It's like going back to the 19th century'"
Why has everything got to be so ridiculously exaggerated?
Pearson actually said "...who can instil a little bit of discipline and fear". Not quite the same emphasis.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Quote ="Rock God X"Discipline I can see the point of, but fear? Is that really what he said?'"
It's pathetic and worries me more about this appointment than anything. Not sure which is worse - that Radford thinks that it's any way to motivate elite athletes or that pearson agrees.
wire, leeds and wigan have a winning culture about the club, they don't (and can't) frighten players into playing well.
Who the fook would sign for a club who are shouting from the rooftops that they will be managed by fear? It's like going back to the 19th century'"
Can't imagine it will do much for morale especially when things are not going well.
The best way to put some fear into them would be to sack 2 or 3 of them now. Lets see if that encourages the others.
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| Quote ="ccs"Why has everything got to be so ridiculously exaggerated?
Pearson actually said "...who can instil a little bit of discipline and fear". Not quite the same emphasis.'"
Oh sorry, so they only need to be a bit scared then? What like a broken finger instead of an arm if you don't play well?
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| Could they mean the FEAR of getting dropped ?
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| Quote ="Legends and Icons"Could they mean the FEAR of getting dropped ?'"
They could mean fear of anything. I'd like to think we could instil a culture where a player's own personal pride would make them fearful of letting themselves and their team mates down but I think it's just fear in the sense of being bawled out by some coach who could beat you up if he felt inclined
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Oh sorry, so they only need to be a bit scared then? What like a broken finger instead of an arm if you don't play well?'"
If that's your interpretation, then fair enough.
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| Quote ="Legends and Icons"Could they mean the FEAR of getting dropped ?'"
Or possibly he meant the players to become a team to be feared.
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| Quote ="ccs"If that's your interpretation, then fair enough.'"
It's pretty obvious what is meant when you read the full paragraph
"I need a leader who people naturally look up to and who can instil a little bit of discipline and fear"
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| Quote ="AP" “I need a leader who people naturally look up to and who can instil a little bit of discipline and fear, get some consistency into our play and make sure the team turns up every week and not when it particularly wants to. It’s very important that the leader sets that tone and I think Lee has those qualities.'"
Good to see people using the quote in the full context and not just using it to mean whatever suits their argument.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"It's pretty obvious what is meant when you read the full paragraph
"I need a leader who people naturally look up to and who can instil a little bit of discipline and fear"'"
You're saying it's an explicit threat of physical violence/assault. I don't interpret it that way.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"You're saying it's an explicit threat of physical violence/assault. I don't interpret it that way.'"
Typical bean counter. It's implied.
[url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24209814Interesting piece on discipline and fear in top class sport[/url
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Typical bean counter. It's implied.
[url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24209814Interesting piece on discipline and fear in top class sport[/url'"
So you're saying the club owner is implying Radford will physically assault employees of the club if they don't perform.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"So you're saying the club owner is implying Radford will physically assault employees of the club if they don't perform.'"
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"No'"
What are you saying then, with your references to broken arms and fingers if they don't play well?
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"What are you saying then, with your references to broken arms and fingers if they don't play well?'"
You know that was a TIC comment so don't pretend otherwise
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| You started off so well..... Quote ="Jake the Peg"They could mean fear of anything. I'd like to think we could instil a culture where a player's own personal pride would make them fearful of letting themselves and their team mates down... '" Shame you had to spoil it....
Quote ="Jake the Peg" ....but I think it's just fear in the sense of being bawled out by some coach who could beat you up if he felt inclined'"
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"You know that was a TIC comment so don't pretend otherwise'"
That's the problem with this forum - we all believe everything we read.
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| Quote ="ccs"You started off so well.....Shame you had to spoil it....
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Sorry if I burst your bubble
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| Quote ="ccs"That's the problem with this forum - we all believe everything we read.'"
Speak for yourself
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"You know that was a TIC comment so don't pretend otherwise'"
I'm not pretending anything, they're your words. Beyond hypocritical to interpret Pearson's words so literally, then say your more explicit references to broken bones should [uobviously[/u be interpreted as subtle tongue in cheek comments. You're less consistent than Gentle.
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| Quote ="Easty"Not sure where I showed concern, I'm simply interested.'"
I Betstead you are
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"I'm not pretending anything, they're your words. Beyond hypocritical to interpret Pearson's words so literally, then say your more explicit references to broken bones should [uobviously[/u be interpreted as subtle tongue in cheek comments. You're less consistent than Gentle.'"
Well, if you want to interpret this
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As reality then you can do my tax return next year if you really live in la la land
It was a hypothetical question to another poster. I've never claimed that would be happening as it's clearly a ludicrous scenario. What he does mean is that the players will be fearful of the coach in some way shape or form
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As reality then you can do my tax return next year if you really live in la la land
It was a hypothetical question to another poster. I've never claimed that would be happening as it's clearly a ludicrous scenario. What he does mean is that the players will be fearful of the coach in some way shape or form'"
Best coach of our time was Alex Ferguson and his hair dryer treatments, so that must be a good thing, that the players recognise and worry about consequences for underperformance. Fear is a great motivator if used in the right way. Not in terms of physical assault, but he was reported to have thrown a boot at Beckham once IIRC.
www.theguardian.com/football/200 ... x-ferguson
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As reality then you can do my tax return next year if you really live in la la land
It was a hypothetical question to another poster. I've never claimed that would be happening as it's clearly a ludicrous scenario. What he does mean is that the players will be fearful of the coach in some way shape or form'"
Best coach of our time was Alex Ferguson and his hair dryer treatments, so that must be a good thing, that the players recognise and worry about consequences for underperformance. Fear is a great motivator if used in the right way. Not in terms of physical assault, but he was reported to have thrown a boot at Beckham once IIRC.
www.theguardian.com/football/200 ... x-ferguson
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Quote ="Mrs Barista"Best coach of our time was Alex Ferguson and his hair dryer treatments, so that must be a good thing, that the players recognise and worry about consequences for underperformance. Fear is a great motivator if used in the right way. Not in terms of physical assault, but he was reported to have thrown a boot at Beckham once IIRC.
www.theguardian.com/football/200 ... x-ferguson'"
Fergie was the worlds best ever football player ever wasnt he?
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www.theguardian.com/football/200 ... x-ferguson'"
Fergie was the worlds best ever football player ever wasnt he?
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