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| Its only limited numbers for a month anyway isnt it? June 21st everything 'should' be back to normal according the governments plan
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| Quote ="Riderofthepalehorse"I probably misunderstood your reply earlier to Armavinit,
If all pass holders attend, no income, if walk ups attend then income.
Not crazy, just misinterpreted.'"
Surely the income is already paid in from members, that money is helping to prop the club up in advance of actual games. That's part of the reward of getting discounted tickets, like buying in bulk at a retailer, you benefit from a lower per item price by buying all the product in one go and before you use them.
So members whom have paid in advance absolutely should get precedence over 'walk ups', I don't see how this should be any other way.
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| Quote ="48756c6c20 524c4643"Surely the income is already paid in from members, that money is helping to prop the club up in advance of actual games. That's part of the reward of getting discounted tickets, like buying in bulk at a retailer, you benefit from a lower per item price by buying all the product in one go and before you use them.
So members whom have paid in advance absolutely should get precedence over 'walk ups', I don't see how this should be any other way.'"
Neither do I, just an earlier misunderstanding in the thread.
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| Quote ="Riderofthepalehorse"Neither do I, just an earlier misunderstanding in the thread.'"
it was the 'no income' if only those with memberships were attending in your comment that made me reply, if that was due to previous confusion apologies.
it's commendable to those paying upfront no matter the outcome, but no-one should be left out of pocket even if they can afford it. Some may well be happy for the club to keep any excess if they aren't able to offer a seat for all the games, however a rotating arrangement for full members whom have paid up front would be a fair way to allow people to attend.
With some not being able to make games possibly the maximum number may not even be attained, I wonder if there's an easy way/system that could connect to other fans to attend if those allocated a spot notified in advance they couldn't attend for a particular game.
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| I am a passholder and am classed as extremely vulnerable, have had the vacine but would probably not be confident enough to attend. There must be many others in the same position. The club could maybe ask passholders to register their intensions to full advantage of the restrictions.
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| Quote ="paperboy"I am a passholder and am classed as extremely vulnerable, have had the vacine but would probably not be confident enough to attend. There must be many others in the same position. The club could maybe ask passholders to register their intensions to full advantage of the restrictions.'"
I think it would be sensible to ask for 'volunteers' who can't or don't want attend to inform the club first, people will be booking a lot of Holidays too. Then the rest of passholders who want to go would have to be put in a ballot, with those who missed out on one game getting priority for the next game.
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| It'll be organised chaos anyway, roughly 3 out of 4 passholders will have to be allocated a different seat.
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| Quote ="ccs"It'll be organised chaos anyway, roughly 3 out of 4 passholders will have to be allocated a different seat.'"
Can be done by assigning fans a block and making seats unreserved but advise you have to sit so many seats and rows away from the next household/bubble group. And give set timeslots for arrival, if you're late you're not going in.
Some will still go wandering about to sit with their mates they've haven't seen for ages though, it'd be very hard to Police.
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| Does any one know what we have to pay the Allam’s?
I thought we had the original deal of keeping the revenue from the first 7,500 fans and then share 50% on all gate revenue above that with the SMC?
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| I rely to your enquiry we do pay a percentage deal on every ticket sold but in addition when we closed the North Stand as an away end it was because we were being charged an extra £30,000 to keep it open if I remember correctly and I believe the same went for the South end as well, I think we maybe pay that to keep that open now. Their argument being that we could get our full average gate in the other two sides. But my memory might be wrong on that one.
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| ..... The North Stand holds 4000, so we'd initially be allowed 1000 spectators in there.
That's £30 per head just to break even.
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| No need to open the North stand, would it be financially prudent to do so in any case?
One row and 3 seats separation is more than enough for those that feel concerned, groups of two households can mix in any case by time the ground is opened to fans so there's no need to separate everyone and thus more than enough space in two if not three stands.
Simply passing people going to the toilets/drink or going to/from your seats is not a transmission thing in any case despite the propaganda by government, but whatever, I won't be one of the ones attending.
ATEOTD the club need to come up with a solution to how they allocate in a fair manner, if there's greater demand than seats available precedence to those with 2 or more from the same household/bubble would surely be prudent in any case.
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| Quote ="48756c6c20 524c4643"groups of two households can mix in any case by time the ground is opened to fans so there's no need to separate everyone and thus more than enough space in two if not three stands.'"
I wonder how that's going to work, answers on a postcard.....
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| i see cas want to host a one of the test events for fans back in the ground before may 17th....surely all seater grounds would be more safer for test events , like seats on trains and buses etc, can be taped off and spread out
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| Quote ="ccs"I wonder how that's going to work, answers on a postcard.....'"
Well the club has details of those members so will know if people are from the same household/s, maybe the club should take on trust that people sitting together is fine. The 'rule' of six, two households etc isn't law in any case and never has been, hence why the fines handed out by plod are deemed unenforceable, so from a legal standpoint people can sit with whomever they like.
There's massively bigger things to worry about than who sits with whom.
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| Quote ="48756c6c20 524c4643"Well the club has details of those members so will know if people are from the same household/s, maybe the club should take on trust that people sitting together is fine. The 'rule' of six, two households etc isn't law in any case and never has been, hence why the fines handed out by plod are deemed unenforceable, so from a legal standpoint people can sit with whomever they like.
There's massively bigger things to worry about than who sits with whom.'"
Just for reference, where do you sit in the KCOM?
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Just for reference, where do you sit in the KCOM?'"
Mostly East but sometimes South, depends if my brother and/or nephew come along as East has been a bit difficult at some games for 4 seats together, that's due to not being always predict what games I can get down for and tickets not being able to purchase ad hoc that far in advance anyway.
Right now it's rather moot, even if I'd had a full membership -which I've never bought, I wouldn't renew because that has the potential to complicate matters further regards allocation and those far closer/able to get to the majority of games. If I was offered a seat for myself and someone else, of course I'd jump at the chance but given the circumstances those already stumping for a full membership deserve to have first dibs as I said upthread.
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| Quote ="Chris71"According to the information released that I've read any outdoor stadium with a seated capacity of more than 16000 is classed as large
"Oliver Dowden, the Secretary of State for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport, confirmed that large venues can have 10,000 or a 25% capacity, whichever was lowest.
A large venue is defined as having a seated capacity of over 16,000 spectators, Dowden confirmed."
So in theory as the KCOM is 24000 capacity so Seb is correct in that we potentially can have up to 6000 attend games under the rules which is large stadiums up to 10000 or 25% of their capacity whichever is the smallest.'"
Over 40000 capacity can have 10000 otherwise it's it's 4000 or 50% if capacity is below 8000 I believe is what has been published so maximum for RL stadiums at the start of the lifting will be 4k at all grounds. Cannot see any away fans anywhere for some time and still a bit on income on clubs
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| Quote ="REDWHITEANDBLUE"Over 40000 capacity can have 10000 otherwise it's it's 4000 or 50% if capacity is below 8000 I believe is what has been published so maximum for RL stadiums at the start of the lifting will be 4k at all grounds. Cannot see any away fans anywhere for some time and still a bit on income on clubs'"
The club have said and are hopefull of having between 5-6000 fans in the ground
At a guess the club maybe looking at
1000 each in the north and south stands
1500-2000 in the east and west (including upper stand)
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| Quote ="REDWHITEANDBLUE"Quote ="Chris71"According to the information released that I've read any outdoor stadium with a seated capacity of more than 16000 is classed as large
"Oliver Dowden, the Secretary of State for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport, confirmed that large venues can have 10,000 or a 25% capacity, whichever was lowest.
A large venue is defined as having a seated capacity of over 16,000 spectators, Dowden confirmed."
So in theory as the KCOM is 24000 capacity so Seb is correct in that we potentially can have up to 6000 attend games under the rules which is large stadiums up to 10000 or 25% of their capacity whichever is the smallest.'"
Over 40000 capacity can have 10000 otherwise it's it's 4000 or 50% if capacity is below 8000 I believe is what has been published so maximum for RL stadiums at the start of the lifting will be 4k at all grounds. Cannot see any away fans anywhere for some time and still a bit on income on clubs'"
Yes stadiums over 40K can have up to 10K but it defines stadiums with a seating capacity of over 16K (of which the KCOM does) as a large venue so comes under the 25% of capacity rule. So in theory 25% of the KCOM capacity is up to 6000 able to attend. There is only Hull FC, Huddersfield & Wigan I believe that have stadiums that can be classed as large venues with a seating capacity of over 16K.
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| Quote ="Chris71"Yes stadiums over 40K can have up to 10K but it defines stadiums with a seating capacity of over 16K (of which the KCOM does) as a large venue so comes under the 25% of capacity rule. So in theory 25% of the KCOM capacity is up to 6000 able to attend. There is only Hull FC, Huddersfield & Wigan I believe that have stadiums that can be classed as large venues with a seating capacity of over 16K.'"
Cheers for clearing that one up sorry if I confused the situation
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| Quote ="REDWHITEANDBLUE"Cheers for clearing that one up sorry if I confused the situation'"
No worries at all :
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