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| I think a majority of us want to see a change of coach but, no way do I want my team to get beat either. As frustrating as Agars tactics and interchanges are to us,we must never want to be beaten by any team.
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| I think, for some, it may be a thought provoking question. It it may make people re-assess their attitudes at games. If you want the team to win surely we as fans must try to do everything in our power to assist. It was a very strange atmosphere even prior to the Wakey game, Cas will bring a much larger following, so we must also raise our game in the stands.
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| Quote ="Saf"I think, for some, it may be a thought provoking question. It it may make people re-assess their attitudes at games. If you want the team to win surely we as fans must try to do everything in our power to assist. It was a very strange atmosphere even prior to the Wakey game, Cas will bring a much larger following, so we must also raise our game in the stands.'"
If the incumbents on the pitch give us encouragement to do so then I am sure we will; if the idiot with the microphone tries to goo all Songs of Praise again then I expect it'll be the same as the response he got for the Wakey game.
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"What makes me laugh is how people are claiming people are less of a fan etc....People have choices to decide what they want eg banners, chanting, team losing etc...this does not make them any less of a fan, they are clearly just as passionate as the rest but choose to express their opinions in different ways to others, at the end of the day they are still fans.'"
Nobody has suggested that on this thread? Just trying to come at the debate from a different angle and trying to get everyone behind the team no matter what their opinions of the coach
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| Quote ="Saf"Nobody has suggested that on this thread? Just trying to come at the debate from a different angle and trying to get everyone behind the team no matter what their opinions of the coach'"
wahey, another call for unity, unfortold joy!
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| I said before the game on Sunday I wanted the team to lose. But once I started listening to the radio, there was only one team I wanted to win. My Hull.FC
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| Quote ="Saf"Nobody has suggested that on this thread? Just trying to come at the debate from a different angle and trying to get everyone behind the team no matter what their opinions of the coach'"
well said , and as it should be, as someone said yesterday "you may not support the coach but you are supposed to support the team !!!"
however for some that is doubtful
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| it is a fact that wether you like the coach or not, the owners or not the CEO or not, a TRUE fan would never ever want to see the team loose, that is not a fan if they do
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| Quote ="Standee"wahey, another call for unity, unfortold joy!'"
As opposed to a call to ...................
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| Stupid question if you ask me....everyones entitled to there opinion on the running of the team/club etc but surely we want to win every game...if not then you should stay at home.
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| Quote ="ICECREAMMAN"it is a fact that wether you like the coach or not, the owners or not the CEO or not, a TRUE fan would never ever want to see the team loose, that is not a fan if they do'"
I disagree, although I would never want my team to lose, I can fully understand why some people want them to at the moment. There are taking the view that the longer Agar is running(or is that ruining?) the team the further we are away from competing so a couple of losses will benefit us in the long run. Whether they are right in their assumption is a different matter.
I reckon if a scenario came up that went something like this
Last game of the season, we have 4th place secured and cannot move up to 3rd or drop to 4th. We are playing the team in 1st place. Rovers are in 2nd and a win for them and a defeat for the team in 1st would see them crowned league winners.
I would expect a lot of Hull fans to want to lose thus guaranteeing Rovers don't win the league leaders shield. I would not personally but I know a lot who would.
I know it is a different scenario just playing devils advocate here
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"What makes me laugh is how people are claiming people are less of a fan etc....People have choices to decide what they want eg banners, chanting, team losing etc...this does not make them any less of a fan, they are clearly just as passionate as the rest but choose to express their opinions in different ways to others, at the end of the day they are still fans.'"
You're right in that people will do what they like and so they should if that's what they want to do. Make banners, shout for the coach's head, make up/support unfounded rumours etc. etc. But, in the same way, other people will have their own opinions as to whether that constitutes good/loyal support for the team or not. All of those opinions are justified, regardless of which angle they come from, and are subject to the same choices of opinion that you refer to.
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| Quote ="hullbg"I disagree, although I would never want my team to lose, I can fully understand why some people want them to at the moment. There are taking the view that the longer Agar is running(or is that ruining?) the team the further we are away from competing so a couple of losses will benefit us in the long run. Whether they are right in their assumption is a different matter.
I reckon if a scenario came up that went something like this
Last game of the season, we have 4th place secured and cannot move up to 3rd or drop to 4th. We are playing the team in 1st place. Rovers are in 2nd and a win for them and a defeat for the team in 1st would see them crowned league winners.
I would expect a lot of Hull fans to want to lose thus guaranteeing Rovers don't win the league leaders shield. I would not personally but I know a lot who would.
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A true fan wants their team to win all games available ..end of!! and i am sure you and your friends are the minority (Ie banner wavers)
AND this issue is not a cross city rivalry its about a man losing his job or not!! which incidentally losing against cas would not influence one bit!!
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| Quote ="ICECREAMMAN"A true fan wants their team to win all games available ..end of!! and i am sure you and your friends are the minority (Ie banner wavers)
AND this issue is not a cross city rivalry its about a man losing his job or not!! which incidentally losing against cas would not influence one bit!!
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Losing or winning doesn't seem to affect it, hence the reason supporters feel the need to protest in other ways. Not that you are likely to know, you could write your significant insights into the club on a fag paper.
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| Quote ="hullbg"Losing or winning doesn't seem to affect it, hence the reason supporters feel the need to protest in other ways. [uNot that you are likely to know, you could write your significant insights into the club on a fag paper[/u.'"
play nice little one
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| Just stating facts. You have been on here with more speculation than anyone else and the majority of it is wrong.
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| Quote ="ICECREAMMAN"A true fan wants their team to win all games available ..end of!! and i am sure you and your friends are the minority (Ie banner wavers)
AND this issue is not a cross city rivalry its about a man losing his job or not!! which incidentally losing against cas would not influence one bit!!
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It's not just about a man losing his job. People are losing jobs all across the country and one person at a professional sports club is insignificant to say the least.
It's about people paying good money to see what, barring a few minutes here and there, has been dross played by professional sportsmen, for a number of reasons. People want rid of Agar (and others) because they love Hull FC, spend money there and want to bask in the glory of the club's success, not as a personal vendetta.
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| Quote ="hullbg"Just stating facts. You have been on here with more speculation than anyone else and the majority of it is wrong.'"
But if your answer to the poll question is YES. Surely going to the game to protest during is counter-productive. Can't protests be organised post or pre match? Or do you think the lack of support or apathy towards your cause is to great?
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| Always want FC to win !!!!
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| I always want us to win but the current situation, where we win one in every 3 or 4 is worst case scenario as every time there's some pressure on the board the team win and he's OK for the next couple of abysmal defeats
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| Quote ="Saf"But if your answer to the poll question is YES. Surely going to the game to protest during is counter-productive. Can't protests be organised post or pre match? Or do you think the lack of support or apathy towards your cause is to great?'"
Firstly I wont be at the game as I feel I will get better entertainment watching the Sky game. I also agree protests should be before and after a game. I never protested during the game on Sunday I got behind my team which I will always do. I will accept protests during a game if the game is lost and we are playing our usual poor rugby though.
You are probably picking the wrong person to have this discussion with, I am not the type of supporter who will try and force others to agree with my view, I think everyone has the right to their own opinion. I don't think a banner is forcing someone to have your opinion, IE if someone had put up an Agar In banner on Sunday I would not have been moaning about it.
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| Quote ="hullbg"Losing or winning doesn't seem to affect it, hence the reason supporters feel the need to protest in other ways. Not that you are likely to know, [uyou could write your significant insights into the club on a fag paper[/u.'"
Bit of a generous statement that
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| Quote ="hullbg"Just stating facts. You have been on here with more speculation than anyone else and the majority of it is wrong.'"
The poll stats seem to think that folk do not want their team to loose... end of story..
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| Quote ="ICECREAMMAN"The poll stats seem to think that folk do not want their team to loose... end of story..'"
And that has what to do with my statement? Is there actually any point quoting me and then talking about something completely different? If you can point me to where I said I think the majority would want the team to lose or were i have said i want the team to lose it would be appreciated.
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