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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Give it a rest Kosh, Hall's fragile, it doesn't matter were he plays he can't tackle 1 on 1 to save his life.
I hope he does move on, then when he fails at his next club maybe you'll realize that he's not got the full skill set to be a SL player.
Hall is by no means on his own though, I personally would bin off the whole back line, keeping only Tansey and Briscoe.'"
No panic there then! Would you also "bin off" the whole of the forwards and halfbacks?
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| Quote ="Locko's Luck"No panic there then! Would you also "bin off" the whole of the forwards and halfbacks?'"
Only if we can keep Fitz, Ogre, Manu, Hame, Moa
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Give it a rest Kosh, Hall's fragile, it doesn't matter were he plays he can't tackle 1 on 1 to save his life.
I hope he does move on, then when he fails at his next club maybe you'll realize that he's not got the full skill set to be a SL player.
Hall is by no means on his own though, I personally would bin off the whole back line, keeping only Tansey and =#0000FFBriscoe.'"
Who can't catch a high ball to save his life and also makes defensive mistakes.
Tansey hardly covered himself in glory yesterday either. And he's made defensive errors in other matches.
Kinda proves my point, really.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Who can't catch a high ball to save his life and also makes defensive mistakes.
Tansey hardly covered himself in glory yesterday either. And he's made defensive errors in other matches.
Kinda proves my point, really.'" No it doesn't, Hall's fragility has been the same for 4 years.
He's only proved one thing, that he doesn't learn.
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| he's a left centre so play him there
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| Whilst Hall can't be made blame free from yesterday, he was left out to dry at times and it was all he could do to try and pat the ball down or shoot out the line and try to take Senior. The main issue for me was how bad our pack was, Manu aside not one of them can hold their heads up and say they had a good game. They lost nearly every collision meaning we had to commit more men to tackles leaving us woefully short outwide. When your facing a team as dangerous as Leeds you simply can't afford it. We weren't helped by picking up a few knocks obviously but you've got to be more dominant than that.
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| The thing is, at Leeds last week Hall was found wanting. So our wonderful coach leaves him in the same position again. McClennan must have been laughing his bits off. We all know that Hall's defence is not the best but due to our dismal attempts at a sliding defence he is being left exposed two on one too many times.
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"he's a left centre so play him there'" It doesn't matter were you play if your 1 on 1 defence is so poor.
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"he's a left centre so play him there'"
I think you've just hit the nail well and truly on the head there, not a winger and never will be. As a centre however he is the best in the team.
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| I keep saying this, most of our problems lie with the players we have and the structure and 'game plan?'
We have too many plodders and players of the same calibre, i.e. headless runners. We have a loose forward playing a props game, therefore nullifying a vital area of play. We lose mobility in defence and an element of uncertainty when it comes to attack.
Look at Leeds yesterday they had the halfbacks roaming the pitch following the likes of Sinfield etc, the next minute they’re controlling play, combine this with Webb, Buderus and Diskin and you can see why we struggled to contain them.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"It doesn't matter were you play if your 1 on 1 defence is so poor.'"
How many one on one tackles did he miss? And how many of them lead to trys? Oh, and it does matter, defending on the wing is a completely different entity to defending on the centre.
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| He isn't strong enough his defence is woeful and he isn't by himself but he at centre I'm not sure were people get the opinion he can do a good job there either we need a big strong centre
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| As a neutral, it was mind boggling to see some of Hall's decisions yesterday. When his namesake actually went over for a try, Hall had his back to him in defence, what was all that about.
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| Quote ="hullandbroncos"He isn't strong enough his defence is woeful and he isn't by himself but he at centre I'm not sure were people get the opinion he can do a good job there either we need a big strong centre'"
We can't win though can we. People say we have too many plodders and call Yeaman for his lack of attacking flair, yet in Hall we have a genuine attacking threat and people say we need defenders. We'de all love a Greg Inglis or Jamie Lyon in the team but they dont come around too often.
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| Craig would be the first to admit he had a bad game yesterday,how many other players let trys be scored off there mistakes and no one questions them,,We need new direction at the club agar isnt that man,you have to question the coachs decision to play centres on the wing wether we have a dedicated wingers or not
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| Quote ="lummy"And play who?'"
Correct. Our lack of depth in the outside backs has found us out. Hall is the best of a bad bunch.
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| i dont see how people say hes not big enough to be a centre most SL centres are roughly the same weight as craig and he is 6 ft 4" and he isfairly strong with it,,i dont see any one saying briscoe needs to be bigger
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| Quote ="OoOGazOoO"As a neutral, it was mind boggling to see some of Hall's decisions yesterday. When his namesake actually went over for a try, Hall had his back to him in defence, what was all that about.'"
Yep poor old Tansey trying to hold him up and hall who was side stepped so easily just gave up ....PATHETICV if I was Tansey I would have kicked off at him big time.
Hall is a liabilty end of
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| Quote ="Mr. Zucchini Head"We can't win though can we. People say we have too many plodders and call Yeaman for his lack of attacking flair, yet in Hall we have a genuine attacking threat and people say we need defenders. We'de all love a Greg Inglis or Jamie Lyon in the team but they dont come around too often.'"
They might come here if we had a top world class aussie coach
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| Well if Yeamo is injured maybe Agar will finally play Hally in his natural position where he's never looked out of his depth.
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| he probably wont play him now though,,they say craigs out of his depth,,sodding agar is
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Well if Yeamo is injured maybe Agar will finally play Hally in his natural position where he's never looked out of his depth.'"
He'll go with Turner and Whiting Imo. The 'safe' option rather than the attacking option.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Well if Yeamo is injured maybe Agar will finally play Hally in his natural position where he's never looked out of his depth.'" I hope he proves himself Dave, but that try that R. Hall scored when Craig just turned his back on him was an absolute disgrace.
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| Quote ="Locko's Luck"He'll go with Turner and Whiting Imo. The 'safe' option rather than the attacking option.'"
Fair point.
Maybe he'll drop Hall afterall as his regular scapegoat.
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"Not sure Agar can take the blame for Hall tbh...Hall has had more opportunities than most I know, his defence has always being very poor, yet a lot of people constantly offer excuses for this. He excelled in NL1, I suspect that is his level.'"
Hall could defend if he had more weight behind him, for some reason we failed to address that.
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