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| Quote ="Sheldon"I believe we can be.
Wigan and wire will be top 2 IMO
Leeds could and probably will come good, I just hope it starts in 2 weeks, saints, hudds and us to fill the rest of the top 6 I just dont know in what order.'"
I think Bradford may have a say as well !!
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| I'd like to say yes, but I think 5th or 6th is more realistic. If we can get a settled side for a few games, I'll be a little more confident. Whichever way it goes, I'd be very disappointed with less than 6th.
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| 5th or 6th is probably about our level. Another pre-season of recruitment for 2011 should hopefully see us with a much stronger and more balanced squad which will be capable of challenging for the top 4 or even top 2 but, as it stands, I can't see us being consistently good enough for the top 4 this season.
Top 6 and the CC will more than do for me !!!
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| i think theres better and more then consistent teams then us this season wigan, wire, leeds, saints then us and hudds but think we"ll finish 5th or 6th which i think would still be a decent season after the last 2 this would put us in a good position to challenge the top 4 or 2 over the next 2-3 years.
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| Quote ="Mr. Zucchini Head"For the top 4?
Based on what we've seen so far I think Wigan and Warrington will be the run away top 2, but I don't think Huddersfield are all that special, and St Helens are beatable aswell. So with Leeds the only team who look capable of overtaking us, do people think this side is good enough for a top 4 finish?'"
Yep.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"icon_lol.gif Agar got rid of him didnt he? Pretty sure Agar didnt recruit him.'"
Don't know if he recruited him - but Agar thought incredibly highly of him. Forced to let him go through injury, but invited him to stay with the club as a non-player as he rated his influence and ethics so much. Which Todd did - certainly for a while.
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| Quote ="Smiggs"No not quite.'"
That's what I think too. If our halves could stay fit then we have a chance but I reckon we will end up 5th/6th.
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| on what ive seen this season (our games and on sky) Wigan and Wire will be top 2, Leeds when they get bodies back will be third, but i dont think Huddersfield or Saints are anything special, 4th/5th for us would be acheivable, heres hoping!!
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| I think we are good enough to make the top 4. When you think we still have not had a settled halfback pairing this season with Long & Horne spending time out injured.
We also have a lot of new players this season and they are only 10 games in playing alongside each other. So for now i still think the top 4 is well within our grasp.
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| In fact looking further into the fixture list, a win against Leeds would really put us in a strong position. Alot of our competitors play each other in the next few weeks. Notably Huddersfield having to play Wigan twice and then Warrington in consecutive weeks. Leeds who after playing us play Saints, Wakefield, Warrington and Bradford. And Rovers, who in the coming weeks play Warrington, Bradford, Saints, Crusaders and Saints again.
Our next 5 are Leeds, Wakefield, Quins, Catalans and Cas, then we play Saints at home followed by Salford. If we manged to win 6 out of 7 (which is possible) we would surely be in the driving seat for that 4th place.
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| If horne and long avoid injury for most of season=top 4
If horne and long dont avoid injury for most of season=top 6
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| The key is injuries
If we manage to keep them low and orr we manage anyl ong term injuries well enough we should make the top four. The rest of the season could be resting on the resulting injuries from this weekend IMHO.
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| We are [igood[/i enough for the top four on top form although I don't think we are [iconsistant[/i enough to make that happen.
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| It really will boil down to injuries once again i'm afraid as to where we finish.
Why oh why do we have so much bad luck with our half back pairings, we just can't seem to get a run together with the same two, let alone our first choice pairing.
Add to that our lack of depth in the backs especially wingers a fourth placed finish might just be a bridge too far.
Just make sure you keep everything crossed that Long's prognosis is a positive one and will be back out there very soon (please God).
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| Quote ="Madamois'ull"It really will boil down to injuries once again i'm afraid as to where we finish.
Why oh why do we have so much bad luck with our half back pairings, we just can't seem to get a run together with the same two, let alone our first choice pairing.
Add to that our lack of depth in the backs especially wingers a fourth placed finish might just be a bridge too far.
Just make sure you keep everything crossed that Long's prognosis is a positive one and will be back out there very soon (please God).'"
we have terrible injury lists since we moved to the stadium, seems to be every year. i do agree that the teams that suffer the least tend to do well, just look at the start leeds have had, it just proves no matter how strong the team is, if you lose a number of key players at any one time your form suffers. we still dont have real strength in depth after our first chioce seventeen, 6th place finish and 1 play off win i think.
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| I'd like to think that we have enough to reach the top 4. Wire and Wigan are going well at the moment, and Saints are bound to pull through. Leeds are starting to build some more now too, but don't look the team they were last season.
Time will tell, as the word of '10 is, CONSISTENCY!
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| Yes I think we can, but with Long and Horne getting injuries I think we will struggle, as long as we dont suffer massive injuries I think we will finish 6th behind Wigan, Warrington, Leeds, Saints and Hudds. I will be happy with this return.
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| First post - please allow time before crucifying my opinions.
I think we are doing incredibly well at the moment - Wigan and wire are now established teams - Wigan have now had stability for a year and Wire have taken 3 years to get to this level. Yes we have used experience players to fast track this situation but even those players have undertaken big life changing moves. I think a lot on here expect them as a team to gel instantaneously and get very despondent when we lose to "lesser" teams - but look what they can do when they get it right. By the end of the season not only do I hope for top 4 but also Old trafford is not beyond this improving outfit
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| Quote ="Dalek"First post - please allow time before crucifying my opinions.
I think we are doing incredibly well at the moment - Wigan and wire are now established teams - Wigan have now had stability for a year and Wire have taken 3 years to get to this level. Yes we have used experience players to fast track this situation but even those players have undertaken big life changing moves. I think a lot on here expect them as a team to gel instantaneously and get very despondent when we lose to "lesser" teams - but look what they can do when they get it right. By the end of the season not only do I hope for top 4 but also Old trafford is not beyond this improving outfit'"
Good post...welcome to the board
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| Quote ="Mr. Zucchini Head"
Wakefield (H)
Quins (MM)
Catalans (A)
Cas (A)
Salford (H)
Catalans (H)
Quins (A)
Crusaders (H)
Should all be bankers as long as we turn up with the right attitude.'"
As should Crusaders and Salford away
Too many twists and turns from ALL teams to come yet, with loads of tough games that are close calls. I'd be happy with top 6 and overjoyed with top 4.
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| Top 6 for me. Back up halves is a must, particularly no 7. Stating the obvious I know but we must recruit from lower league for a no 7 to back up Long. We have no one except Berrigan to replace Long and that leaves us short of a no 9 back up. There must be some player down there worth taking a chance on.
Switching Horne to no 7 is an option and he seemed to work well with Turner, but again that is a stop gap.
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| Quote ="Dalek"First post - please allow time before crucifying my opinions.
I think we are doing incredibly well at the moment - Wigan and wire are now established teams - Wigan have now had stability for a year and Wire have taken 3 years to get to this level. Yes we have used experience players to fast track this situation but even those players have undertaken big life changing moves. I think a lot on here expect them as a team to gel instantaneously and get very despondent when we lose to "lesser" teams - but look what they can do when they get it right. By the end of the season not only do I hope for top 4 but also Old trafford is not beyond this improving outfit'"
You do know people have been exterminated for posting sense on here don't you?
Welcome on board.
As we are=top 5 for me.
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| I really like Hudds now since they have Brough on board I think they have a lot of players that can interchage positions which will help them if/when they get any injuries. I rate them above Warrington for this reason. Wire are doing well now and are at the peak of their powers, time will tell whether any key injuries or drop in form will keep them from a top 2 position...
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| Quote ="Mr Incredihull"If horne and long avoid injury for most of season=top 4
If horne and long dont avoid injury for most of season=top 6'"
spot on, though I do think that Turner is better than many give him credit for!!
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| Quote ="Dalek"First post - please allow time before crucifying my opinions.
I think we are doing incredibly well at the moment - Wigan and wire are now established teams - Wigan have now had stability for a year and Wire have taken 3 years to get to this level. Yes we have used experience players to fast track this situation but even those players have undertaken big life changing moves. I think a lot on here expect them as a team to gel instantaneously and get very despondent when we lose to "lesser" teams - but look what they can do when they get it right. By the end of the season not only do I hope for top 4 but also Old trafford is not beyond this improving outfit'"
Very good post Dalek, although some on here will refer to you as Dalek Caan for being a bit mad
I agree we are 10 games in with a lot of new players fitting in. Other players starting to find their feet and the team as a whole still gelling together. Lets see what the 2nd third of the season brings.
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