Thanks Kosh common sense as always.
And did me fine Mrs barista thanks. Still tingling

Your easily pleased then thats all i can say

What did we really create against Salford

What did we really create against Cas

Hardly free flowing rugby is it

Not really. I just have a sense of perspective and a memory that goes back to far worse times than this.


More points than they did?


In patches it was approaching it. Which is an improvement from a few weeks ago.

the only way we will play any better is by getting a new no7,plus a new prop who can break defences.

Free flowing rugby doesn't always win games and thats whats important, saying that neither does "safety first" percentage rugby. The hard part is getting the balance right.

If we played free flowing rugby every week but lost every game by 2 points (eg.34-32) you'd still be whining.

new 7 i say try Lee
new prop Sam Moa

An interception for Salford.

Not with a squad that costs £1.6m per annum

Slack Rovers C...... <stops>

a prop who is fit,play for at least 15 mins each half,a no7 who can create somthing,lee and moa dont fit any of these.

You really think those 2 are the answer to our problems?

Did we play free flowing rugby in 06 when we got to Old Trafford? I think we all know the answer is no, but nobody was complaining then. The difference was we had a couple of props who could bend the line and get the team on the front foot.

Nobody on this board is saying that their over the moon with our performances but yesterday was an improvement on recent weeks.

I agree, some fans ( I don't really think you can call them that ) are never happy. We were never in the game for the first 20 against Cas yet WE WON ! They are a good side and will be more disappointed not to have won due to the amount of possession they had. We fought hard for a victory that a few weeks ago would not have happened so give the team some credit. If your a serial whinger go whinge somewhere else.

I wish you'd get to the point.

I just wish you'd fook off

I have been away so watched the game today,for the first 30 mins we were average at best but were still only 6 points down.Things did improve a bit after this but not much.Houghton played well as did Danny Washbrook.Cas should be the more worried of the two teams after dominating and failing to put the game away in the first half.

Moa apparently played around 60 mins for the reserves a couple of weeks ago.

HTH.

Two wins albeit not great performances but wins are what is important right now and in particular staying with the group on the 14 point mark.

Could do better but happy to be winning again.

Some people want to see free flowing attacking rugby, that doesn't win games though. You only have to look at warrington for that. This year and to a lesser extent next year is about rebuilding. starting with getting the defense in order, which on the whole this season has been ok. Our goal line defense is a big improvement on last season. Then after this we can start to be more adventurous. All good teams start with good defense.

No need. Bad man.

Cas were not at there best same with you guys, but a toss pot ref once again spoiled the best game this weekend .

Our defence was worse after Sharp left, up to then it was better than most despite the defeats in 5 games by 2 points or less.
We are leaking points early on in games recently, that IMO is down to Agar changing our starting props, Cusack and Dowes have proven very hard to break down and pretty much error free, to change it for the sake of change is wrong, if it ain't broke then don't fix it.
Starting Thackray isn't 'safe' IMO as Thacks defence is hap hazard and he makes most errors either in handling or defence.

Saints played free flowing rugby ..but they got their back side kick

I don't get what the thread starter is on about, nobody is being that negative about our win

there's a big difference between pointing out things that are still wrong (such as Thorman being completely shocking) and being negative, there's still errors and problems with the side, but we definitely made a step in the right direction this week IMO we even started throwing balls out in the tackle (not always successfully!) something we haven't seen since 2007 really.

Agreed that i'm happy with still being with the main group. As Paul said our performances haven't been great, despite winning yet only against Salford and Cas. I was very happy to see more willingness to throw the ball around more. We tried a few offloads and expansive play against Cas and i think you would all agree that is an improvement. Hopefully we can kick on after a weeks rest and pull up a good consistent 80 minutes against wire.