I agree re Cas. Wigan will beat them next week We will get a cricket score put on us though.

Against young kids, hopefully not on sky in front of an empty stadium, can’t take no more embarrassment

The fact we have no injuries, tells us our top wage earners are out there for us, maybe they need to take a look at themselves? Salford and Huddersfield at home to go clear in second place, you'd take that all day, and they fail to take that chance.

Very very very poor.
Parked my waggon up on outskirts of Cas tonight.
Got taxi there and taxi back. Should not of bothered.
We totally lack in attack, same week in and week out.
One or two passes and turn it in side.
Right from the start Cas was passing the ball the width of the field.
We only had one player that could do anything and that was Kelly
All Radford has gone for is size. We don't have enough creative players.
We got torn to bits by a 20 year old.
TIME FOR A CHANGE AT THE TOP.
someone with more idea in attack.

Very very poor.

Kelly had a real dig. Love the way he plays.
Would be Man of Steel in a better team.

And someone with a lot more idea in defence would be helpful also.

St Helens are unlikely to rest many if any given that they have a week off following our game.

Shocking. Horrendous.

Obviously Radford has to go but we need a massive clear out. Shaul, Taylor and Houghton need dropping or even moving on. Cash in on Connor. Bowden, Masi and Ellis can go. The club is a shambles atm.

I'd take Wane if he wanted to come back to RL.

I have been saying that for months.

The desire and urgency to win should be and has to be greater for us, considering this is our season, and St's don't have a great deal to play for. Whether we have the quality is another question.

But we probably don't deserve to make it with the way we've chucked it away over the last few weeks.

And they said Mini also had a go at Logan

Anybody else detect a bit of a smirk on Agar's face when talking about Jakey boy ??

Thing is, I really want the current coaching staff to do well. They seem like really good guys with integrity. They also gave me the greatest day of my life in 2016.
Unfortunately it just seems there’s no going back from all this. We haven’t got a load of salary cap sat in the stands this year at the business end, yet the performances are not much better. I wasn’t a huge fan of Gentle, but he never presided over so many massive beatings as we’ve took this year. Even Agars team didn’t concede as many points against average opposition.
He’ll be given more time because of the signings but I feel so ambivalent about our style of rugby, I’ll be back there next year out of duty more than anything.

He can take him back to Leeds now for me.
It’s okay giving it big licks, but back it up with performing on the pitch.

Also showed what a difference it makes having a full back who links up with play.
Really think we need to go down that route. Shauls jinking around with zero metre gain doesn’t do much for me.

All St Helens have to do is takekelly out of the game and they have won
How dose Taylor get in the England team when there's a far better prop at Cas that we got rid of ??

He deserved it for that pass he gave at the beginning of the second half .

Most of you said from the start that the team was past it, Radford has gone out and made big changes for next year, pulling off some real coups like Ma'u and Jones.

He's brought the age and numbers of the squad down, and added some quality in their prime age.

My opinion is give him a chance with this new squad.

think he will be given a chance, but it really is last chance saloon for me, only positives where Kelly who gave it everything although clearly carrying a bit to much timber, and satue and masi who gave it a good dig,

So what does 746pts against tell us?

Yes the players have to take a look at themselves but they are not the only ones. Doing the same prep isn’t changing or correcting anything either and that’s down to the coaching staff.

It’s the Head Coach to see it isn’t working and change things (not just the players) to resolve and fix things and manage the problems. Not just keep doing the same thing over and over again hoping eventually it’ll turn out ok. Next season will just end up being the same old story of promise but ultimately failure.

Probably for throwing that stupid pass a the beginning of the second half which killed the game

Cheers! Although up in time for the start I had to cook breakfast for the better half so watched it on delay about 40 minutes behind the start. At least they didn't rub it in and score 51!

OK adam, we get the message