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| Quote ="Kosh"Normally I'd agree. And in fact I've argued this very point just about every time a player has left. But let's look at this case in detail...
Here's a guy who we gave his first big opportunity in RL. We showed faith in him by offering him a long contract while he was still very young and learning his craft. We stuck by him through dips in form and several serious injuries. He's been lauded by the fans and by the club.
And he can't even be ar$sed to see out his contract.
Sod him.'"
Comes across a bit bitter that Kosh.
I'm seeing it more that if were a better side with Lineham in it, we should play him. We should play our best available side IMO.
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| I find it slightly ironic that the only badge kisser who actually means it is the player most want rid of.
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| Does anyone really blame lineham for going to a club where he's likely to appear in finals and is probably earning more cash? Blame the people responsible for 30 years of mediocrity at Hull, not a player wanting to better himself
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Does anyone really blame lineham for going to a club where he's likely to appear in finals and is probably earning more cash? Blame the people responsible for 30 years of mediocrity at Hull, not a player wanting to better himself'"
If we've really suffered 30 years of mediocrity supporting Hull FC then we might as well all give up.
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| Quote ="ccs"If we've really suffered 30 years of mediocrity supporting Hull FC then we might as well all give up.'"
Very few highlights in that time from my memory of it. We flatter to deceive time and time again.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Very few highlights in that time from my memory of it. We flatter to deceive time and time again.'"
Could be worse, we could be Wakefield, or worse, Rovers
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| What's the latest on Naughton's injury?
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Does anyone really blame lineham for going to a club where he's likely to appear in finals and is probably earning more cash? Blame the people responsible for 30 years of mediocrity at Hull, not a player wanting to better himself'"
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"What's the latest on Naughton's injury?'"
It's painful?
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| Quote ="*1865*"It's painful?
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Dead hip - is that code for something?
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| ..."in contention" for this weekend.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Normally I'd agree. And in fact I've argued this very point just about every time a player has left. But let's look at this case in detail...
Here's a guy who we gave his first big opportunity in RL. We showed faith in him by offering him a long contract while he was still very young and learning his craft. We stuck by him through dips in form and several serious injuries. He's been lauded by the fans and by the club.
And he can't even be ar$sed to see out his contract.
Sod him.'"
Second post in 2 days i agree with
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"What's the latest on Naughton's injury?'"
Injured, bruising from being hit by a Mars Bar (other chocolate bars are available)
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| Quote ="frepneyboy"Injured, bruising from being hit by a Mars Bar (other chocolate bars are available)'"
I should give up trying to be funny if I were you. You're not really very good at it.
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| Quote ="Hessle Roader"I should give up trying to be funny if I were you. You're not really very good at it.'"
Bless, its an internet forum, what do you expect?
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| Quote ="Hessle Roader"I should give up trying to be funny if I were you. You're not really very good at it.'"
I don't get it.
Fans throw sweets at the end of games, Houghton scoops the most and needs a carrier bag. Watts tweets his preference is Haribo. I threw a Mars Bar which Mini collected and some Timtams for Rankin. He's mentioned it 4 times. Should we start a new thread?
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"I don't get it.
Fans throw sweets at the end of games, Houghton scoops the most and needs a carrier bag. Watts tweets his preference is Haribo. I threw a Mars Bar which Mini collected and some Timtams for Rankin. He's mentioned it 4 times. Should we start a new thread?'"
Why do people throw sweets?
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| Quote ="frepneyboy"Why do people throw sweets?'"
Bit of fun and interaction with players. Why do people get autographs, photos, send tweets, get player names on shirts?
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| Quote ="Doom&Gloom Merchant"Comes across a bit bitter that Kosh.'"
That would be because I'm very angry and bitter about it. Not to mention vindictive.
Quote ="Doom&Gloom Merchant"I'm seeing it more that if were a better side with Lineham in it, we should play him. We should play our best available side IMO.'"
My one caveat is Naughton or Lancaster being fit. If they are, then IMO we don't lose more than we gain by dropping Lineham.
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| Quote ="Hessle Roader"Do you mean like Sneyd and Westerman who left to join us while still contracted to their club. Its not as though he's just disappeared without seeing the season out.'"
Didn't they both get announced during the off season that they were to leave?
Edit: forget that, just seen that Sneyd was announced on July 1st! I get what you mean, just feel that others should be given the chance to prove themselves, as I've expressed below
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| Quote ="Doom&Gloom Merchant"Yeh you're right. One thing that Lineham doesn't have in his locker is decent high-fiving skills.
Luckily for Tom, Tony Smith is great at one on one high fiving training, so he should be able to break into the Warrington team.
Slapping on the back too. Something I look for in a player, top back slapping ability. Give em a really good hard slap.
On a serious note, if Lineham is playing poorly, Naughton will come in. There's no reason the club should drop him purely on the grounds of him leaving.'"
Haha, yer fair enough.
I just think that if we have someone waiting in the wings like Naughton that we'd be better building for the future and giving Naughton the chance to establish himself in the team for next year.
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"So if you left your workplace to go somewhere else, maybe for family reasons, maybe to earn more money, to become more successful/progress your career say, and your boss and work colleagues ostracised you and told you you were a krunt for leaving, starting slagging you off despite being a good honest worker and working out your notice how would you feel...just sayin'?
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I haven't slagged anyone off?
If that scenario happened and I had an understudy who would be my replacement after I left, then I think its perfectly reasonable for that understudy to be given more responsibility (ie more game time) and if that meant I did less (ie 'got dropped'), then so be it. The company will still be there after I leave and I'd expect them to plan for life after myself, no matter how hard I worked.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Dead hip - is that code for something?'"
Its the Hull version of "real cool".
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| Quote ="Faithful One"I haven't slagged anyone off?
If that scenario happened and I had an understudy who would be my replacement after I left, then I think its perfectly reasonable for that understudy to be given more responsibility (ie more game time) and if that meant I did less (ie 'got dropped'), then so be it. The company will still be there after I leave and I'd expect them to plan for life after myself, no matter how hard I worked.'"
You said "His contract clearly meant knack all to him, so why should we?"
So that's not slagging him off then or criticising him?
Then you went onto say that highfiving and backslapping is the measure of how committed a player is and that Lineham should be ousted from the 13 on that basis, YOUR WORDS "High fiving, slapping people on the back, seemingly loves playing rugby for hull. If that means Lineham makes way then so be it"
I gave a scenario so that you could place yourself in those shoes and how it would feel people getting on at you for leaving your workplace to go elsewhere.
Given your very words, your opinion of TL for leaving isn't a positive one is it?
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"You said "His contract clearly meant knack all to him, so why should we?"
So that's not slagging him off then or criticising him?
Then you went onto say that highfiving and backslapping is the measure of how committed a player is and that Lineham should be ousted from the 13 on that basis, YOUR WORDS "High fiving, slapping people on the back, seemingly loves playing rugby for hull. If that means Lineham makes way then so be it"
I gave a scenario so that you could place yourself in those shoes and how it would feel people getting on at you for leaving your workplace to go elsewhere.
Given your very words, your opinion of TL for leaving isn't a positive one is it?'"
If his contract meant anything to him he would have seen out the 2 and a half years he had left. I don't see stating that as slagging him off, just making a point of view.
With reference to the high fives etc, if you'd taken the time to quote the full text, as opposed to the bits that you have taken out of context, I actually said that "He (Naughton) has the attitude similar to Rankin that riles the opposition." And then went on to discuss the kind of niggly actions which I enjoy seeing in a player as it shows their desire to get under the skin of the opposition to enable them to get the upper hand and hopefully get a win. I merely pointed out that I think Naughton should be playing week in week out (injury permitting) because he has shown plenty of passion and desire to win games for this club in the relatively short space of time he's been here. I also said if that means Lineham makes way, then so be it.
And I responded to your scenario and argued the point that life doesn't revolve around me. People can have their opinions, I for one hope that Tom does find the success he craves (if that's what he's going for),he has given me some fantastic memories, but he's made his decision. Do you not agree that we should be able to focus on building for the future?
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