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| Quote ="Hasbag"Didn't get to see the game on Saturday due to been away but it seems people believe Ock played slightly better.
My issue with him in attack is that I don't think he really goes looking for the ball. If it comes to him, then he'll run it in. And despite his lazy running style he will make good metres. But he doesn't look to put his hand up for a carry very often. We don't seem to use his size enough. Either with giving him crash balls on the opposition line and letting him power straight over a half back, or even kicking on the last to him. He's going to be above pretty much anybody he's challenging against for the ball. Tried it first set against London and he nearly pulled it in for a try. Maybe he just doesn't call for the ball though.'"
In terms of his asking for the ball, it could be down to his days (and most of his career as a Winger). This is the first real season of any note being primarily in the back row - and even his physique is still more of a back, than a back rower. I would expect that the upcoming close season will see him add a bit more bulk similar to Watkins
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| Quote ="Dave K."Not giving up on Okunbor yet, works hard in defence, but we definitely need more in attack from him.'"
Good defence workrate, but 7 drives making 46m isn't brilliant
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| Quote ="Steve0"Good defence workrate, but 7 drives making 46m isn't brilliant'"
Agree, doing ok, but we need more form an overseas player in attack, hopefully this will come, is a big, quick lad, so should be making tackle busts and some breaks.
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| McMeekan, Davies and Johnstone all leaving Catalan at the end of the season, we should be showing interest in all 3, quality players that would be good additions to our team. If McMeekan and Johnstone both end up at Wakey, they could end up with a better team than us in 2025
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| Quote ="Steve0"McMeekan, Davies and Johnstone all leaving Catalan at the end of the season, we should be showing interest in all 3, quality players that would be good additions to our team. If McMeekan and Johnstone both end up at Wakey, they could end up with a better team than us in 2025'"
I'd go all out for Mcmeeken, make him marquee and captain, fantastic player. Doubt we will get him, be surprised if him or Johnson go to Wakey, wouldn't be suprised see see them both at Leeds.
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| Quote ="Steve0"McMeekan, Davies and Johnstone all leaving Catalan at the end of the season, we should be showing interest in all 3, quality players that would be good additions to our team. If McMeekan and Johnstone both end up at Wakey, they could end up with a better team than us in 2025'"
Have a feeling Davies will go to Rovers if Hall decides to retire.
Catalans are now after Partington, would of been all over him personally.
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| Still have the big disadvantage of location over other clubs, would players move to Hull when they could live in Leeds, Manchester or the South of France.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Still have the big disadvantage of location over other clubs, would players move to Hull when they could live in Leeds, Manchester or the South of France.'"
Do you think it's location or success/perceived chance of success? East Hull is even further away from Leeds/Manchester etc, but they seem to be able to attract a better calibre of player than we can currently.
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| Quote ="Steve0"Do you think it's location or success/perceived chance of success? East Hull is even further away from Leeds/Manchester etc, but they seem to be able to attract a better calibre of player than we can currently.'"
They have people with deeper pockets than Adam.
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| Quote ="Hessle Roader"Quote ="Steve0"Do you think it's location or success/perceived chance of success? East Hull is even further away from Leeds/Manchester etc, but they seem to be able to attract a better calibre of player than we can currently.'"
They have people with deeper pockets than Adam.'"
I think its probably fair to say that both Hull clubs have to pay over the odds compared the the rest of SL to attract players to come this far East simply down to geography. Ultimately to make it attractive to players money talks and there's little doubt that this season there has been a lot more thrown about by Rovers and secondly they are spoken about as a team that will be competing.
I don't think it can be put down as one thing, but do think location does hamper both sides hence why we often have to offer more lucrative deals than the likes of say Leeds.
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| Quote ="Steve0"Do you think it's location or success/perceived chance of success? East Hull is even further away from Leeds/Manchester etc, but they seem to be able to attract a better calibre of player than we can currently.'"
That's down to money, most of Rovers succesful signings have come raiding Wakey and Bradford, not too many come from Lancashire and they often miss out if they compete with the bigger sides like Dupree.
Good chance the Wakey source will dry up soon.
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| Quote ="Dave K."
Good chance the Wakey source will dry up soon.'"
Will probably have to switch it to the cas source for 2025 if IMG gradings stay the same as this seasons
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| Quote ="Steve0"Will probably have to switch it to the cas source for 2025 if IMG gradings stay the same as this seasons'"
Not sure Cas have much quality, been poor at bringing players through, major flaw in Powell as a coach.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Quote ="Steve0"Will probably have to switch it to the cas source for 2025 if IMG gradings stay the same as this seasons'"
Not sure Cas have much quality, been poor at bringing players through, major flaw in Powell as a coach.'"
Agree and then add in the Radford factor which will bite them like it has us.
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| Mcmeeken, Partington, Johnstone & Davies all walking into our starting 13.
Wouldn’t be popular but I’d be looking at players like Matty Storton & Olly Russell for that extra squad depth.
Harry Ruston has a year left on his deal but I wonder with Watson and the size of the hudds squad they might let a few players move on.
Don’t think there’s much domestic talent knocking around apart from the obvious 4
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| Quote ="Hullrealist"Mcmeeken, Partington, Johnstone & Davies all walking into our starting 13.
Wouldn’t be popular but I’d be looking at players like Matty Storton & Olly Russell for that extra squad depth.
Harry Ruston has a year left on his deal but I wonder with Watson and the size of the hudds squad they might let a few players move on.
Don’t think there’s much domestic talent knocking around apart from the obvious 4'"
I wouldn't bother with Russell, Storton maybe if we lose Brown.
We won't sign any of the first four, the days of signing popular domestic players are long gone, unless we find some investment sadly.
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| Mcmeeken, Davies and Johnstone will probably have every club in SL after them we'd have to offer mega bucks to even give ourselves a chance that's the only reason one of them would come here and I'm not sure we're in the position financially to make an offer like that.
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| What are peoples thoughts on Jake Bibby, probably better than Carlos, but I'd be looking at either someone younger with more potential or an overseas player the quality of Salfords two centres.
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| Quote ="Dave K."I wouldn't bother with Russell, Storton maybe if we lose Brown.
We won't sign any of the first four, the days of signing popular domestic players are long gone, unless we find some investment sadly.'"
You could throw in the likes of O'Meley , Fitzgibbon , Manu ,Pritchard and those quality of names seem a million miles off now .
Quality players want to play with quality players , as well as lack of finances , We lack the other attraction also .
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| Quote ="B0NES"Quote ="Dave K."I wouldn't bother with Russell, Storton maybe if we lose Brown.
We won't sign any of the first four, the days of signing popular domestic players are long gone, unless we find some investment sadly.'"
You could throw in the likes of O'Meley , Fitzgibbon , Manu ,Pritchard and those quality of names seem a million miles off now .
Quality players want to play with quality players , as well as lack of finances , We lack the other attraction also .'"
Sadly we aren't likely to be signing anyone of quality domestic or quota for the foreseeable as the club seems to lack an actual clear plan and a genuine drive/fight to get back to challenging.
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| Quote ="Chris71"Sadly we aren't likely to be signing anyone of quality domestic or quota for the foreseeable as the club seems to lack an actual clear plan and a genuine drive/fight to get back to challenging.'"
The only narrative coming from the club just seems to be the drive on producing our own players .
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| Quote ="B0NES"The only narrative coming from the club just seems to be the drive on producing our own players .'"
We can produce our own promising players, but unless we complement them with top quota / domestic players like Wigan/ St Helens/ Catalan do, we won't compete, we'll stay mid table / bottom half...currently whilst our youth is getting better, were replacing the experienced players with lower quality experienced players
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| Also if we don't start competing, bigger clubs will start picking off the likes of Staveley, Charles and Martin.
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| Quote ="Steve0"Quote ="B0NES"The only narrative coming from the club just seems to be the drive on producing our own players .'"
We can produce our own promising players, but unless we complement them with top quota / domestic players like Wigan/ St Helens/ Catalan do, we won't compete, we'll stay mid table / bottom half...currently whilst our youth is getting better, were replacing the experienced players with lower quality experienced players'"
Yep and then all the decent youth that comes through will just get picked off by the top clubs and as a club we will see no real benefit from the investment (time and money) thats been put in to the youth.
We are continuing to lose ground and fall further behind not just the top clubs but the chasing pack we are now lagging behind by some way, look at how far behind Salford we have fallen for example.
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| Quote ="Steve0"We can produce our own promising players, but unless we complement them with top quota / domestic players like Wigan/ St Helens/ Catalan do, we won't compete, we'll stay mid table / bottom half...currently whilst our youth is getting better, were replacing the experienced players with lower quality experienced players'"
The only way they will get really good is rubbing shoulder week in week out with class players and anyway we'll be losing the best of that emerging youth because other clubs offer them more money!! We're in a downward spiral I'm afraid and have been since 2017.
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