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| Quote ="Kosh"Tallanoa played in the Championship years ago, so benefits from the 'grandfathering' clause. Personally I don't think he should have but there you go.'"
Heremaia?
Unless Talanoa emptied the bins at Keighley and that counts?
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| Quote ="Kosh"Tallanoa played in the Championship years ago, so benefits from the 'grandfathering' clause. Personally I don't think he should have but there you go.'"
Sun gone to your head?
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"Why though? SL/English RL is cash-strapped - the SL salary cap hasn't gone up in a long time, which will equate to a sizeable real-terms decrease. And the NRL has got a lot richer, at the same time.
A fair few players have come over from Oz with little or no first-grade experience and done okay - even when SL was relatively a bit better off. Damian Blanch, Ben Fisher, even Luke Dyer and Mark Lennon. 'The talent is out there, if we give it a chance' argument is pretty much consigned to the wishful thinking bin now - one of the justifications (that both Hudgell and Pearson have given) for the cut to 12 teams is the lack of talent. That's why, just as the dispensations ran out, non-fed got bumped up to 7 too.
Middling signings from Aussie reserve grade are a symptom (mainly, IMO), not the cause of our poverty and shallow talent pool. It'd be comforting to think that if we just gave the kids a go, it'd all come good - I think the problem is deeper and more profound than that.
What did Radford describe your team as early in the season? Rag-tag bunch of misfits or something like that? There's a certain charm to that, so I think it is better to enjoy our RL for what it is rather than holding it to some impossible standard that it cannot currently hope to meet.'"
Zak Hardaker, Chris Hill, Alex Walmsley, Anthony England, Jason Walton, Greg Johnson and Liam Finn are all fairly recent success stories of identifying talent from the lower divisions. The success rate recruiting from the Championship seems far greater than it does recruiting from the lower tiers in Australia. It's too easy to finger point at a shallow player pool. The playing talent is clearly out there, the clubs just aren't utilising it!
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| Quote ="Raggytash"The playing talent is clearly out there, the clubs just aren't utilising it!'"
some are better at it than others I guess, FC have done well in recent years, the desire for instant success doesn't help, and nor go greedy agents that give poor advice.
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| Talanoa had never played over here before he joined us.
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| Quote ="*1865*"Can talk technicalities all we want, signings like Cordoba, Matellato and Talanoa shouldn't happen. I'd rather watch bang average British kids play for the clubs they love than bang average Aussies that have failed at home.'"
I want to see whichever is most likely to win for my team. I'm not over fussed where they're birthed.
Quote ="Raggytash"Zak Hardaker, Chris Hill, Alex Walmsley, Anthony England, Jason Walton, Greg Johnson and Liam Finn are all fairly recent success stories of identifying talent from the lower divisions. The success rate recruiting from the Championship seems far greater than it does recruiting from the lower tiers in Australia. It's too easy to finger point at a shallow player pool. The playing talent is clearly out there, [uthe clubs just aren't utilising it[/u!'"
Why would they do that? Are they just perverse?
Tbf, that's roughly half a team and you're covering a handful of years of players stepping up. Whenever I look at the top-rated players in the Championship in RLW, a high proportion are SL players who stepped down. I think Scott Murrell and Will Sharp were in team of the month, last time I looked. Though, I'm not sure why we got shot of Murrell, sometimes, I admit.
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| Quote ="Chris28"Heremaia?
Unless Talanoa emptied the bins at Keighley and that counts?'"
Yup - got the two confused.
I'm blaming senility.
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| So we have...
Feka (exempt)
Paea
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Rankin
Miller
Sa
So 5 count against our allowance of 7 at the moment. If we have 3 coming in that would mean losing one. Miller?
When did Sa join Catalans? I don't think it was long enough ago to gain the exemption.
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| Quote ="bishops finger"either Hull team could sign Sonny Bill and Cooper Cronk and the other team would still find fault. its just in our genes.'"
Not always mate !! I think Darrell Goulding is a fantastic signing I'm honestly surprised other teams were not trying to get him
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| I think rovers have recruited well. 3 new 3/4's who are all better than the players they are replacing. chester also saying they are signing 4 young players from other SL clubs and I'd expect at least one to be one of ours, possibly 2
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| He's also said Mantellato is a young player, he's 27?!
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| Quote ="A unknown superstar"He's also said Mantellato is a young player, he's 27?!'"
he's a pup in FC's terms.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"I think rovers have recruited well. 3 new 3/4's who are all better than the players they are replacing. chester also saying they are signing 4 young players from other SL clubs and I'd expect at least one to be one of ours, possibly 2'"
To be fair, we heard all last winter about how good the dobbins recruitment was and how it was going to propel them into the top 6. Not worked out this year, and they've lost one of their top two players already and may yet lose their other one in time for next season.
Anyway, seeing as its a thread about FC, has anyone else heard the Dixon (London) to FC rumour?
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| One thing you can say about Hkr recruitment is it's always balanced. They always get the type of player they need. We just seem to sign anyone and force them into a hole. Although Sneyd and Pyrce seem what we need.
Injury free Mantello and Sio will get at least 30 try's between them next year in Burns can sort his cross field kicks out, some of England's best can bearly jump over a cig paper.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"One thing you can say about Hkr recruitment is it's always balanced. They always get the type of player they need. We just seem to sign anyone and force them into a hole. '"
Just shows that there's barely a cig paper between the two approaches based on results.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Just shows that there's barely a cig paper between the two approaches based on results.'"
In Hull. For the battle for 9th place.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"In Hull. For the battle for 9th place.'"
Of course - the point you made was a relative one.
Hull's recruitment under McRae and Gentle and before has been a disaster.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Of course - the point you made was a relative one.
Hull's recruitment under McRae and Gentle and before has been a disaster.'"
It's been portrayed as one.
Sa, Talanoa, Carvell, Rankin?
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| Quote ="Sheldon"It's been portrayed as one.
Sa, Talanoa, Carvell, Rankin?'"
3 of these players are doing ok, early days for sa as well. out of those 3 only carvell has failed and is gone. Rankin shows much potential. there's a long list of gentle/mcrae signings who have not lasted at the club or who will shortly cease to have a career here. i'll reserve judgement until we know who our other signings are, but so far radford and motu's recruitment has not been too bad. i'll also add the caveat that we don't know how much the salary cap impacts on current recruitment and also exactly what the budget is for new players - 2 very different things. what pearson declares publicly might not be the whole picture
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| Quote ="the artist"3 of these players are doing ok, early days for sa as well. out of those 3 only carvell has failed and is gone. Rankin shows much potential. there's a long list of gentle/mcrae signings who have not lasted at the club or who will shortly cease to have a career here. i'll reserve judgement until we know who our other signings are, but so far radford and motu's recruitment has not been too bad. i'll also add the caveat that we don't know how much the salary cap impacts on current recruitment and also exactly what the budget is for new players - 2 very different things. what pearson declares publicly might not be the whole picture'"
Doing ok? From 6th and a cc final to this is ok?
I'm not saying Pg signings were all great but were rewriting history.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"Doing ok? From 6th and a cc final to this is ok?
I'm not saying Pg signings were all great but were rewriting history.'"
no i wasn't saying the club as a whole are doing ok - were underperforming badly. however out of the 4 players you named 3 have done ok this season - we have got far worse and released far worse
thats done ok - not really well or brilliant or anything like that - simply ok
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| Quote ="the artist"no i wasn't saying the club as a whole are doing ok - were underperforming badly. however out of the 4 players you named 3 have done ok this season - we have got far worse and released far worse
thats done ok - not really well or brilliant or anything like that - simply ok'"
Fair enough.
Incidently
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2. Lineham
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Bin the rest and hope the 3 overseas are good enough.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"Doing ok? From 6th and a cc final to this is ok?
I'm not saying Pg signings were all great but were rewriting history.'"
You are not supposed to criticise the club or Radford as the coach who has taken the club backwards on here.
They don't like it
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| Quote ="Sheldon"It's been portrayed as one.
Sa, Talanoa, Carvell, Rankin?'"
Colbon, & Tuson
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| Quote ="Sheldon"Fair enough.
Incidently
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21. BTW
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Bin the rest and hope the 3 overseas are good enough.'"
No sign of Rankin in there. Are you suggesting we bin him, or have you just forgotten about him?
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