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| Quote ="Chris28"I agree with him too. Not sure what good it will do, as Kosh says, but the more comes out on this, the more the club's name gets dragged through the dirt and the less I like the whole thing.'"
Aye unfortunatley that would be the consequence. Not enjoying this one little bit every little nook and cranny of the story is bringing our name down but if it's going to happen why not lets have it done now. Get it over and done with. Because for some strange reason "The RFL wish to comment no further at this time" does not fill me with confidence that this is quite over just yet.
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| Quote ="PAC"If(big if i know) it can be proved that Rimmer and that lass did what gleesons statement says ie witheld info from the drug peeps if(2nd big if)enough people big in statue in the game apply pressure(Is Hudge the 1st?)then the position will quickly become untenable and action will be taken to help plaster over the rfl wound.
Just my opinion of course.'"
UKAD have already investigated the role of Rimmer and Rosewarne and cleared them both. This was with the full cooperation of Gleeson so they will have already heard everything he had to say in the article and seen all the 'documentary evidence' he claims to have. The RFL will just fort up behind that regardless of what Hudge or anyone else wants.
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| So hudge is going to stand up and challenge the RFL
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| This is a 1st but I totally agree with Hudgell
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| interesting to read in the league express that the oxy-elite gleeson was found guilty of taking is allowed by athletes out of competition time, that is 12 hours before a game, gleeson took his within this time. maybe the reason rule panicked and said the players were taking the same stuff, but within the guidlines, no doubt other players from other clubs will have been using oxyelite too but abiding by the rules
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Senior's words, not mine. Seems to have been even less scrutiny there than checking with the club conditioner - Senior said he "showed them to someone with a medical background" - could have been a dental hygienist for all that tells you. In terms of the supplement issue itself, it sounds pretty much identical to what happened at Hull IMO.
The choice to cover it up by a combination of Rule and the RFL is entirely separate, but the underlying supplement point seems very similar.'"
Pretty much. I don't have Senior's book in front of me but, to paraphrase, he suggests that had his offence been committed more recently he'd have been looking at a much harsher punishment on account of the rules having been tightened.
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| Quote ="Lee Tucker FC Fan 2006"www.sportingintelligence.com/2012/01/16/sean-long-exclusive-i-gave-gleeson-banned-drugs-gleeson-scapegoat-in-cover-up-160103/'"
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| [urlhttp://www.sportinglife.com/rugbyleague/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=rleague/12/01/16/RUGBYL_Gleeson.html&BID=480[/url
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| Does that mean that Longy is open to a ban now that he has admitted taking the drug?
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| Quote ="hullbg"Does that mean that Longy is open to a ban now that he has admitted taking the drug?'"
Doubt it if that 12 hour thingy is true about it being legal. IN which case he has done nothing wrong. He is now just trying to defend his mate IMO.
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| Quote ="hullbg"Does that mean that Longy is open to a ban now that he has admitted taking the drug?'"
Doubt it all the players could have taken it today legally. It's all about timing.
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| Quote ="hullbg"Does that mean that Longy is open to a ban now that he has admitted taking the drug?'"
No, he didn't fail a test.
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| Quote ="hull smallears"it gets worse and worse'"
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| Anyone asked Longy whose shop he got the stuff from?
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| Quote ="cod'ead"It really doesn't'"
I actually agree. Have been away and just catching up. Am still a bit embarrassed by it all though.
Interestingly, a report has finally appeared on BBC website...................
[urlhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_league/16579884.stm[/url
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| Quote ="cod'ead"Anyone asked Longy whose shop he got the stuff from?'"
That will be his dads then !!!
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| Hudge is going to ask questions Priceless!!!....after last years pathetic spectacle regarding Masongate and Dobsongate
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| Hudge should leave well alone. If he makes waves for the RFL there'll be no more special dispensations for the Dobbins.
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| Quote ="Marfa Manu"Hudge is going to ask questions
Priceless!!!....after last years pathetic spectacle regarding Masongate and Dobsongate
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It's only one -gate, no matter how many names you give it!
MHA-gate, Rule-gate, Gleeson-gate, Failed-drug-test-cover-up-gate - all the same thing.
Effin' useless temporary dispensations - a cover-up was what we needed and what I expect NH to demand one next time. A competent one ideally.
We should do a -gate amnesty. We won't ever mention X again, in exchange for you forgetting about Y.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"It's only one -gate, no matter how many names you give it!
MHA-gate, Rule-gate, Gleeson-gate, Failed-drug-test-cover-up-gate - all the same thing.
Effin' useless temporary dispensations - a cover-up was what we needed and what I expect NH to demand one next time. A competent one ideally.
We should do a -gate amnesty. We won't ever mention X again, in exchange for you forgetting about Y.
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All things being equal, Hudgell has hardly been flavour of the month at Red Hall for some time now. I would have thought he'd better serve himself and HKR by keeping his own counsel
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| Quote ="cod'ead"All things being equal, Hudgell has hardly been flavour of the month at Red Hall for some time now. I would have thought he'd better serve himself and HKR by keeping his own counsel'"
Yes, the only reward he'll get for indiscriminately and randomly sticking his neb in here is that his RFL stock will be even lower than it was following Mason/Dobbogate. (That do you, MR? )
Go, Grudge, go.
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| Quote ="cod'ead"All things being equal, Hudgell has hardly been flavour of the month at Red Hall for some time now. I would have thought he'd better serve himself and HKR by keeping his own counsel'"
I'm inclined to agree. There isn't much to gain - directly at least.
Relations weren't great with your old board, so maybe he's just taking his turn to stick the boot in. It has been a long queue.
Or he might offer to pipe down, and on his way out happen to mention a couple of good candidates for the Red Hall disciplinary or something.
I'd be a bit queasy playing politics with this, tbh.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"I'm inclined to agree. There isn't much to gain - directly at least.
Relations weren't great with your old board, so maybe he's just taking his turn to stick the boot in. It has been a long queue.
Or he might offer to pipe down, and on his way out happen to mention a couple of good candidates for the Red Hall disciplinary or something.
I'd be a bit queasy playing politics with this, tbh.'"
I said when the story first broke that there wasn't a cat in hell's chance of the RFL delving too deep into the cupboards on this one. Rudely waking a dozing bear isn't the smartest of moves
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