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| Contract decisions have to made in April/May, we had just won 8 games out of 10 by magic weekend, so it's not always that easy.
Maybe the stars some on here are demanding we sign couldn't commit until 2020?
Who knows?
Our losing run started the day after Manu and Mini were resigned, make whatever you want out of that.
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| Quote ="WIZEB"Well I'm staying in the trenches with Radders.
He's earnt it for our days in the sun.
The fair weatherers run for the hills as soon as the storm clouds gather.
We've seen it all before, innit.'" lol spot on mate
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| Quote ="ccs"Contract decisions have to made in April/May, we had just won 8 games out of 10 by magic weekend, so it's not always that easy.
Maybe the stars some on here are demanding we sign couldn't commit until 2020?
Who knows?
Our losing run started the day after Manu and Mini were resigned, make whatever you want out of that.'" imo if Hadley fit would start either of manu or mini on the bench and see if we can keep them a bit fresher. Both looking there age
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| Quote ="WIZEB"Well I'm staying in the trenches with Radders.
He's earnt it for our days in the sun.
The fair weatherers run for the hills as soon as the storm clouds gather.
We've seen it all before, innit.'"
I've been attending games for years, home and away in all weathers so not sure how that makes me a fairweatherer (not sure that's a word by the way) just because I'm fed up with our current ongoing predicament.
Not sure what staying in the trenches actually achieves is it braveness or stupidity to blindly follow? I'll let you decide that 1 but ultimately fighting on regardless as you intimate could result in a change of fortune eventually or still achieve the square route of f00k all.
And 2 glorious days in the sun hardly make a summer.
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| Quote ="hull2524"imo if Hadley fit would start either of manu or mini on the bench and see if we can keep them a bit fresher. Both looking there age'" That's was what was being said 9 months ago, not that they were bad signings.
Add Bowden, Green and Bienek into the mix and pack rotation becomes realistic.
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| Quote ="Bombed Out"I've been attending games for years, home and away in all weathers so not sure how that makes me a fairweatherer (not sure that's a word by the way) just because I'm fed up with our current ongoing predicament.
Not sure what staying in the trenches actually achieves is it braveness or stupidity to blindly follow? I'll let you decide that 1 but ultimately fighting on regardless as you intimate could result in a change of fortune eventually or still achieve the square route of f00k all.
And 2 glorious days in the sun hardly make a summer.'" it's what you call supporting your team.
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| Quote ="hull2524"it's what you call supporting your team.[/quotin
Is your money more valuable then mine? Do you pay double for your merchandise in the club shop? Or does the brightness from your halo eminate such brightness that when you walk into the stadium the team are visibly lifted?
Thought not.
So we just support the club in the same way then just to clarify.
Just because I voice my opinion and concerns on here it doesn't make me any less of a fan then you or I'll fight them in the trenches Wizeb and if you think it does then you're sadly deluded, which I think most of us on here have concluded you are.
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| As much as Radders will be in our hearts for what he has achieved, a fresh approach is needed. Classsic example of this is Kieran Cunningham. Towards the end of his tenure, saints were flat and some what predictable, picking up the odd win here and there but nothing spectacular. Cunningham was well respected by the club and fans alike, but change was inevitable. Those same players transformed over night into a force that would take super league by storm for the next 18 months. We should now as Holbrook s first game was against us at magic
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| Quote ="lingys"As much as Radders will be in our hearts for what he has achieved, a fresh approach is needed. Classsic example of this is Kieran Cunningham. Towards the end of his tenure, saints were flat and some what predictable, picking up the odd win here and there but nothing spectacular. Cunningham was well respected by the club and fans alike, but change was inevitable. Those same players transformed over night into a force that would take super league by storm for the next 18 months. We should now as Holbrook s first game was against us at magic'"
Saints rise and our decline in a short space of time are a great example of how quickly things can change. It's not long ago that we steamrollered them on their patch on the way to winning the cup. Fast forward a couple of seasons and they're a long way ahead of us. The core of each club's squad is pretty much the same as it was but they've advanced significantly whilst we've gone backwards
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| If Catalan were to get beat today, then the last 2 Super league champions and last 2 Challenge Cup winners will all be on zero points after 2 games. We're not in bad company.
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| Quote ="giddyupoldfella"If Catalan were to get beat today, then the last 2 Super league champions and last 2 Challenge Cup winners will all be on zero points after 2 games. We're not in bad company.'"
Apart from last seasons super league champions (grand final winners) of course
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Apart from last seasons super league champions (grand final winners) of course'" Wigan are on zero.
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| Quote ="giddyupoldfella"Wigan are on zero.'"
OK, fair enough but they have won a game
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| Quote ="Bombed Out"
carry on moaning if it makes you feel better. We all have a go now and again but that's all you do.
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| Quote ="hull2524"
I'll take that as a bite then.
And to be fair the only thing I really complain about is the quality of your posts, as they lack reasoning and quality and are far worse then our teams current form.
Now jog on.
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| you only complain about my posts ha ha ha goodness me, well ignore them then, problem sorted,
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| Quote ="Bombed Out"
And 2 glorious days in the sun hardly make a summer.'"
How many days in the sun have you had the privilege of?
We've been lucky enough to have 2 very recently.
It was was 14 years ago and 37 years respectively otherwise.
I've had the pleasure of all four.
Each one lived and enjoyed, knowing they don't come around like buses.
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| Quote ="WIZEB"How many days in the sun have you had the privilege of?
We've been lucky enough to have 2 very recently.
It was was 14 years ago and 37 years respectively otherwise.
I've had the pleasure of all four.
Each one lived and enjoyed, knowing they don't come around like buses.'"
There really should be no room for sentiment in Professional sport.
In our case Radford has overseen a very strong squad produce two challenge cup wins but then failed to kick on into the Grand Final.
Injuries played a large part last season but at times the team just gave up.
Not refreshing the squad this season will prove to be Radfords biggest mistake.
There is no doubt sentiment or misplaced loyalty played a part in extending the contracts of Minichello,Manu,Paea and Washbrook when most fans saw this as a huge mistake. Washbrook apart the three overseas players are well below par of what we need from our quota players.
The addition of four reserve squad members is hardly going to make a difference where we finish this season as none of them have the quality to establish themselves as a first team regular.Thompson has played the first two games but you can see he has very little impact.
Radford i know works very hard but sometimes you need to make that change for the benefit of the club.
Someone has mentioned Cunningham at Saints and when the change was made look at the difference it made.
The club needs a shake up.New coach,new ideas, and more important the ability to attract overseas players.
I expect very few overseas players know who Lee Radford is,that is why we need a well connected Aussie coach to help us fill the Quota spots next season with the right players.
Albert Kelly coming back into the team and moving Connor back to right centre will make a difference but as we can see our forwards are being dominated and the bench we are putting out is weak with no impact.Thats not going to change until mid March when Bowden and possibly Green are back but i think that will be too late to save Radford his job
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| Quote ="WIZEB"How many days in the sun have you had the privilege of?
We've been lucky enough to have 2 very recently.
It was was 14 years ago and 37 years respectively otherwise.
I've had the pleasure of all four.
Each one lived and enjoyed, knowing they don't come around like buses.'"
Also enjoyed all 4 cup wins and a 1991 premiership but not seeing your point really.
If your Leeds, Wigan, Saints and Warrington then finals do come along like buses.
Why should we settle for being also rans and perennial under achievers when the fanbase and infrastructure could dictate otherwise.
I'm not here knocking Lee because I enjoy it but unless he can reinvent himself and our team it's hard to see when you're going to enjoy your next day in the sun.
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| You should have replaced 2 of your overseas players this season because next season you’ll have to find maybe 5 and to find 5 decent overseas players your going to need a miracle and could end up with panic signings
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"You should have replaced 2 of your overseas players this season because next season you’ll have to find maybe 5 and to find 5 decent overseas players your going to need a miracle and could end up with panic signings'"
Your concern is noted.
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| Quote ="WIZEB"How many days in the sun have you had the privilege of?
We've been lucky enough to have 2 very recently.
It was was 14 years ago and 37 years respectively otherwise.
I've had the pleasure of all four.
Each one lived and enjoyed, knowing they don't come around like buses.'"
Whilst it’s great we have had to cup wins in recent years and at last at Wembley they are now confined to the history books. We have not pushed on from those. Same as we never pushed on from the win in Cardiff and GF appearance.
We shouldn’t be satisfied and settle for losing ground, Saints, Leeds, Wigan haven’t and don’t and that’s why no other team other than Bradford have won the GF.
The biggest mistake has been the retention of Mini, Manu and signing Paea on a 2 yr deal. That’s 3 quota spots we are not getting any value from out on the field.
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| 4 if you include talanoa. No one knows if tulis I just is real or a smoke screen, but with no timescale on his return, surely his quota place could be put to better use.
With mdj gone for the season, and after thursdays performance miloudi will be back at Doncaster for the foreseeable future, we need a decent winger to do a job there, I just can’t see griffin on the wing.
To me if tulis injury is long term pay off the remainder of his contract and bring someone in
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| Quote ="lingys"4 if you include talanoa. No one knows if tulis I just is real or a smoke screen, but with no timescale on his return, surely his quota place could be put to better use.
With mdj gone for the season, and after thursdays performance miloudi will be back at Doncaster for the foreseeable future, we need a decent winger to do a job there, I just can’t see griffin on the wing.
To me if tulis injury is long term pay off the remainder of his contract and bring someone in'"
More to his “injury “ than what has been said
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"You should have replaced 2 of your overseas players this season because next season you’ll have to find maybe 5 and to find 5 decent overseas players your going to need a miracle and could end up with panic signings'"
Or we could nip in and take one of your props, quite like the look of Mulhern.
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