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| Quote ="airliebird9"Liam Watts has performed to such a standard this season to warrant keeping his starting berth at prop surely??'"
I don't think it matters, they will all get the same gametime, it's a good position to be in having 3 great props who can all do big minutes. I would switch it around each week anyway.
Looking at 1865's team I reckon that Naughton has just edged Lancaster.
Not really sure what to do with Talanoa, he offers so much with his go forward, enthusiasm and strength, but lacks certain attributes to be a top centre or winger.
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| Quote ="Dave K."I don't think it matters, they will all get the same gametime, it's a good position to be in having 3 great props who can all do big minutes. I would switch it around each week anyway.'"
Yeah possibly, it is a 17 man game these days as far as minutes played and rotations etc etc. But if Ellis does play again and indeed it is at prop at 35, would he not be best used as an impact player from the bench with the younger guys (Watts & Taylor) starting when they are fit and well.
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| Watts can always do stints at 13 if need be.
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| Fonua is gonna be played centre. I was chatting with a coaching staff member. I thought he'd come as wing but apparently not.
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| The only place Talanoa shouod play is on the wing he is never ever a centre he simply cannot pass a ball.
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| I would go with Fonua is a centre who plays wing Talanoa is a winger playing centre so they would go to there natural positions Pritchard would come off the bench for some great impact, Ellis I expect to be a tower of strength in front row and will be massive playing half as many minutes, great team with some quality squad members size power and pace all over the park its coming together very nice well done to the club great recruitment these things take time but Radders putting a strong team together now
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| Thompson really needs to improve, his form has been disappointing since he signed his new deal, not sure he has the size to be a prop, looks goud near the line with husxquick feet, but doesn't make enough years and is suspect in defence.
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| For me Abdull has done enough to challenge Westerman for a starting birth each week. Hopefully radders will pick 13 based on form
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| Quote ="airliebird,runninglate!"Fonua is gonna be played centre. I was chatting with a coaching staff member. I thought he'd come as wing but apparently not.
Tala staying on wing'"
I would like to see Fonua play centre too. Could be wasted on the wing, so to speak
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| Quote ="fc-eaststander"I would go with Fonua is a centre who plays wing Talanoa is a winger playing centre so they would go to there natural positions Pritchard would come off the bench for some great impact, Ellis I expect to be a tower of strength in front row and will be massive playing half as many minutes, great team with some quality squad members size power and pace all over the park its coming together very nice well done to the club great recruitment these things take time but Radders putting a strong team together now
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Taylor
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Totally agree but would have loved to sign another half
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| Quote ="rodney_trotter"For me Abdull has done enough to challenge Westerman for a starting birth each week. Hopefully radders will pick 13 based on form'"
Must have missed all those games Abdull has played at 13. How did he go?
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| For me, Talanoa should be back-up and not first choice regardless of where we play him.
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| Quote ="Kosh"For me, Talanoa should be back-up and not first choice regardless of where we play him.'"
Shouldn't have any non fed player as a back up. If he's not good enough to be in the 17, don't renew his contract.
Personally I quite like him as a winger, yes he's not the best in the air (more his positioning than jumping and catching) but he does so much for the team helping the forwards out and scoots and enthusiasm are second to none.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Must have missed all those games Abdull has played at 13. How did he go?'"
He's played some games at 6 more recently but I think he looks more comfortable playing loose forward. The kid has huge potential
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| Quote ="rodney_trotter"He's played some games at 6 more recently but I think he looks more comfortable playing loose forward. The kid has huge potential'"
He might end up at 13 but I'm not sure he's up to defending in the middle for 80 minutes every week yet. Tackling props in superleague is a whole different thing to the u19s.
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| Quote ="rodney_trotter"He's played some games at 6 more recently but I think he looks more comfortable playing loose forward. The kid has huge potential'"
No doubting that long term he'll be a 13, but I don't see the need to play him there just yet. He doesn't have the fitness to make 50 tackles a game like our current 13 does. Westerman was outstanding in that 2nd half at Saints, Abdull isn't capable of putting in those kind of performances, yet.
If I was Leon Pryce i'd be worried about my 6 shirt next year with how Abdull has conducted himself in his absence. That said, he's still young and will have games when things don't go so well, it's then Radford needs to know when to take him out of the firing line.
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| Quote ="C for Cuckoo"He might end up at 13 but I'm not sure he's up to defending in the middle for 80 minutes every week yet. Tackling props in superleague is a whole different thing to the u19s.'"
That's it in a nutshell. Still way off (at least 2-3 years) being able to play there full time. 2-3 years in the halves will do him the world of good.
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IF Ellis doesn't make it next season (a full recovery is no gimme by any stretch) then Green as a possible starter with Watts, we need to find a better balance than we have done this year where time and time again we have two weaker props on and noticeably there's being a loss of impetus.
I'm also not seeing how we are officially under the cap with the players we have next year, certainly more high wage earners than this year
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| Quote ="C for Cuckoo"He might end up at 13 but I'm not sure he's up to defending in the middle for 80 minutes every week yet. Tackling props in superleague is a whole different thing to the u19s.'"
Exactly. I think people are so focused on what Westerman does (or doesn't do) in attack they miss the huge number of tackles he gets through. Abdull isn't up to that yet IMO, either in terms of fitness or defensive technique.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Exactly. I think people are so focused on what Westerman does (or doesn't do) in attack they miss the huge number of tackles he gets through. Abdull isn't up to that yet IMO, either in terms of fitness or defensive technique.'"
I thought our defense struggled in midfield when he was out injured. He's a big lad and he he tackles well and I'd be sorry to see him leave.
I like Abdull though and I'm hoping he continues to get long spells in the first team. I'd like to think that it's up to him to get his head down and work at it. At the start of 2016 if he doesn't apply himself in the off-season he could find himself third choice stand off and third choice loose forward.
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