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| Quote ="number 6"where do most assistant coaches come from?
players who have recently retired!
its ok for you to moan but you've given no alternatives'"
People would moan if we got Wayne Bennett as assistant!
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| Quote ="number 6"its ok for you to moan but you've given no alternatives'" I said that if the position was opened up externally there would be no chance Radford would be the best candidate.
Or do you think he is the best person who would be interested in the position ?
Hell Chris Thorman's coaching CV is more impressive.
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| Most ex players move into coaching at their clubs it's a natural progression happens alot in NRL, i think its a good move by the club now for player signings!
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| Quote ="GEvans75"James Webster as your example.
Give me strengh!'"
another one who offers no alternative!
ok how about the following
mike forshaw at warrington
james lowes at leeds
chester at rovers
andy hay was at cas
all ex players
people like you never happy!
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| Quote ="flezmundo"Most ex players move into coaching at their clubs it's a natural progression happens alot in NRL, i think its a good move by the club now for player signings!'" They do and I would have no issue with Radford staying as coach of the 15's or moving up to 18's but to simply come in and be the number 2 of our club is outrageous.
How alarming would this potential situation be: Gentle gets home sick and leaves and we are left with caretaker head coach Radford
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| Quote ="The Hollywood Frasier"I said that if the position was opened up externally there would be no chance Radford would be the best candidate.
Or do you think he is the best person who would be interested in the position ?
Hell Chris Thorman's coaching CV is more impressive.'"
im happy for radford to be given ago, time will tell if he will be a success or failiure
too many people are expecting too much from pearson
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| Quote ="The Hollywood Frasier"They do and I would have no issue with Radford staying as coach of the 15's or moving up to 18's but to simply come in and be the number 2 of our club is outrageous.
How alarming would this potential situation be: Gentle gets home sick and leaves and we are left with caretaker head coach Radford
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Well how do you know he wouldnt be good? Have you been coached by him?
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| Quote ="number 6"another one who offers no alternative!
ok how about the following
mike forshaw at warrington
james lowes at leeds
chester at rovers
andy hay was at cas
all ex players
people like you never happy!'" Your missing the point completely.
None of those players retired and immediately went into the role of assistant coach at the club they had just retired from.
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| Quote ="dayvoz"your claim that he,s more interested in business than his rugby is based on what?'"
It wasn't my claim. I said I broadly agreed with the thrust of Mrs B's post. To be honest, I don't know if he's more interested in business than rugby or not. The rest of the post was spot on though. I also agree with Hollywood's suggestion that the post might have been advertised externally.
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| DAWN OF A NEW ERA Lee Radford the assistant coach of Hull FC.
Talk about being brought back down to earth with a bump.
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| Stuart Wilkinson has been rumoured to be in for the Castleford Assistant coaches job. He would have been perfect for the Hull job. Very experienced and qualified coach with a track record of working in good Academy systems. Just what you need i think.
Radders may go on to be a very good coach but it is going to be a very steep learning curve for him at a time when Hull are looking for pretty swift success. There have also been some pretty mixed reports about his methods of working with the under 15s although i accept that working with kids is far different than working with full time pros.
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| Quote ="flezmundo"Well how do you know he wouldnt be good? Have you been coached by him?'" Ok so lets do away with interview processes and just simply bang the names of recently retired players into a hat and pull 1 out at random.
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| Quote ="number 6"another one who offers no alternative!
ok how about the following
mike forshaw at warrington
james lowes at leeds
chester at rovers
andy hay was at cas
all ex players
people like you never happy!'"
I did if you can't be bothered to read today's posts that's your prerogative.
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| Every new appointment we've made so far has been high risk IMO. mcare as DOR - never done the job before (although probably has experienced much of the workload as a head coach), gentle as head coach - never done the job before, radford as assistant - never done the job before, head of player performance (the conditioner guy) - never worked at this level before, the new physio - unsure if she's ever worked for a professional sports team before. Now these may prove to be inspired appointments, but there is a high chance that not all of them will be. I would have preferred to have seen some more experienced people appointed although there may be an element of cost saving involved
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| Quote ="The Hollywood Frasier"Your missing the point completely.
None of those players retired and immediately went into the role of assistant coach at the club they had just retired from.'"
does it matter?
they still went from retiring from a club to go straight into an assistants job
you still havn't offered any alternative though!
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| Quote ="GEvans75"I did if you can't be bothered to read today's posts that's your prerogative.'"
powell?
why would he want to leave the top job at featherstone who are flying at the moment to be an assistant at fc?
if anything he will be wanting to be a head coach at a SL club!
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| Quote ="The Hollywood Frasier"Ok so lets do away with interview processes and just simply bang the names of recently retired players into a hat and pull 1 out at random.'"
Not the point im making, im saying how can you write him off before you've seen how he goes?
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| Quote ="flezmundo"Not the point im making, im saying how can you write him off before you've seen how he goes?'"
because thats the majority of the mentality of fc fans!
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| Quote ="flezmundo"Not the point im making, im saying how can you write him off before you've seen how he goes?'"
Hollywood hasn't written him off, he's just said he wouldn't have been his choice.
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| Are we appointing another assistant coach?
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| Quote ="number 6"does it matter?
they still went from retiring from a club to go straight into an assistants job
you still havn't offered any alternative though!'"
His alternative was to advertise the post. People seem to be "pleased with this" based on the fact he is now an ex FC player. He should have had to work his way upto the assistant coach role not walk straight into it. However, if it's the only way they could get him to agree to retire it's probably worth it.
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| Quote ="Standee"Hollywood hasn't written him off, he's just said he wouldn't have been his choice.'"
but he hasn't said who he'd like to have been given the job!
everyone deserves a chance
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| Quote ="number 6"powell?
why would he want to leave the top job at featherstone who are flying at the moment to be an assistant at fc?
if anything he will be wanting to be a head coach at a SL club!'"
Exactly the only half decent British coach is not available and he coaches Featherstone, you did read the full post didn't you
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| Quote ="flezmundo"Not the point im making, im saying how can you write him off before you've seen how he goes?'"
There's a difference between writing someone off and suggesting that proper advertising of the post, together with a rigorous selection/interview process, might have thrown up a better candidate.
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| Quote ="number 6"everyone deserves a chance'"
some disagree, is a club aiming for top 2 of SL where someone should be learning on the job?
there's some Radford tinted spectacles on this thread
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