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| Quote ="jimmyfivebellies"[/u
tom briscoe
rich whiting
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all 5 have improved again this season.fitz and ogre also,but considering who they are i wont count them.jordan turner is improving as the season goes on,and the same with sam moa.
a long way to go yet,but we will get there-hopefully
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All very interesting, now can you answer my qwuestion?
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Nope don't think so - it's because at Leeds he started working with players that were classes above those he worked with at Huddersfield. He was, of course, a decent coach at Huddersfield (as he has gone on to prove) just didn't have the ammo. I only deal in facts - the facts were he got Hudds relegated and lost a shed load of games in the Championship. He lost a few games at Leeds too - one in Cardiff against a far from world class John Kear IIRC. None of this has anything to do with Agar - just pointing out that the WORLD CLASS Tony Smith didn't always have it his own way when working with lesser players.'"
I was pointing out that you don't get to be world class by just turning up on day one and starting doing the job. You learn your trade. I'm sure that as you deal in facts that you'll agree
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| Quote ="Digby"Nothing really, I suppose.
But then again, I don't have a user-name like...say... "I used to be a professional" and i don't Regurgitate information already offered by others as my own.
I guess it boils down to me not needing the attention like you do.'"
look back at his posts. He claims that many "exclusives" that one or two are bound to happen
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Whereas you are actually a fat barsteward named jimmyicon_lol.gif
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c'mon jake you can do better than that!!
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"Can I just clear some-thing up...I am not really Berrigan's Bitch, I am happily married
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Thanks for clearing that up. You'll have to start considering a new name soon (when berro departs). I'd have a word with EXPRO. He's had some good ones; Airborneone, Oracle of Knowledge. He's re-invented himself more times then Prince!
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"look back at his posts. He claims that many "exclusives" that one or two are bound to happen'"
Indeedy, law of averages and all that.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"The wooden spoon reference was someone else's, I was merely responding.
If you don't like what I post don't read it. Simplez'"
Well maybe you could've responded to EXPRO to correct his inaccuracy!! However it's your negativity that really gets to me!! I know this board is for opinions, but apart from the odd knee jerk reactions it seems like we could win 20 gf's and 20 cc's in a row and you still won't be happy!!! Hey, why don't we get Ricky Stuart in charge?? He's available i hear, after excelling at Cronulla!!
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| Quote ="Digby" Oracle of Knowledge. '"
This has to have been the least accurate username in the history of the internet.
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| Quote ="FC Wembley 08"I know this board is for opinions, but apart from the odd knee jerk reactions it seems like we could win 20 gf's and 20 cc's in a row and you still won't be happy!!! '"
I see this line trotted out again and again, and it never ceases to amaze me. It's precisely the fact that we're not winning Grand Finals and Challenge Cups regularly that makes Jake so 'negative'.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"I was pointing out that you don't get to be world class by just turning up on day one and starting doing the job. You learn your trade. I'm sure that as you deal in facts that you'll agree'"
Thought he showed his WORLD CLASS attributes on the international stage. Or was he still learning the trade then ?
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| Quote ="FC Wembley 08"Well maybe you could've responded to EXPRO to correct his inaccuracy!! However it's your negativity that really gets to me!! I know this board is for opinions, but apart from the odd knee jerk reactions it seems like we could win 20 gf's and 20 cc's in a row and you still won't be happy!!! Hey, why don't we get Ricky Stuart in charge?? He's available i hear, after excelling at Cronulla!!'"
Cool, I'll keep being negative and hopefully you'll feck off at some point
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Thought he showed his WORLD CLASS attributes on the international stage. Or was he still learning the trade then ?'"
world class is subjective and in the tiny world of rugby league it's probably not that great an accolade. Personally I wouldn't class Tony Smith as world class (it was another poster who claimed he is) until he's proven himself in the NRL. What I do know is that at each of the 3 club sides he's coached he has brought about significant improvements, and he himself has improved along the way.
I think we both know we can discount his time in charge of GB as whoever is in charge just doesn't have the depth of quality required to beat the aussies.
Is he a better coach now than he was at huddersfield? Undoubtedly, but then you'd expect nothing different would you? Would he have won a GF with leeds if it were his first coaching job? Who knows, but I'll bet his experience at hudds was a contributing factor and I'm sure that leeds wouldn't have given him his 1st head coaches role
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| Quote ="Amadeo Avogadro"I see this line trotted out again and again, and it never ceases to amaze me. It's precisely the fact that we're not winning Grand Finals and Challenge Cups regularly that makes Jake so 'negative'.'"
Some consistently good rugby would cheer me up no end
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Some people need to get over themselves.'"
I agree it is not the most pleasant board to visit any-more...
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"I agree it is not the most pleasant board to visit any-more...
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It's an internet forum, get a grip
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"It's an internet forum, get a grip'"
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"world class is subjective and in the tiny world of rugby league it's probably not that great an accolade. Personally I wouldn't class Tony Smith as world class (it was another poster who claimed he is) until he's proven himself in the NRL. What I do know is that at each of the 3 club sides he's coached he has brought about significant improvements, and he himself has improved along the way.
I think we both know we can discount his time in charge of GB as whoever is in charge just doesn't have the depth of quality required to beat the aussies.
Is he a better coach now than he was at huddersfield? Undoubtedly, but then you'd expect nothing different would you? Would he have won a GF with leeds if it were his first coaching job? Who knows, but I'll bet his experience at hudds was a contributing factor and I'm sure that leeds wouldn't have given him his 1st head coaches role'"
To be successful you need the top players first and foremost. Hudds didn't have them and GB didn't have them and Smith couldn't do anything about that and achieved nothing with either. Since moving to Leeds and then Wire he has proven that he can work with the top players in the game at SL level and all credit to him for that - it proves he has ability. My point to the other poster was that Smith has needed top-level players to achieve results. When he hasn't had them he hasn't achieved. No shame in that - it's normal. Sometimes when the discussing relative merits of coaches people forget about the relative merits of the players at their disposal.
Take the Dobbins last year - overachieved during the season but cometh the hour got mullered twice in knockout by better players in better teams. Not much Morgan could do about that yet some wanted him here because he was perceived to be better than what we had. This year our players are better than his and we are 3 from 3 against them.
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| Who is Richard Agar's favourite player?
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Who is Richard Agar's favourite player?'"
Ah the $64k question.
Ben Cockayne ?
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Ah the $64k question.
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Got to be a forward, hasn't it? Presumably he can produce evidence of ancestors from the Fev/Ponte/Normanton triangle.
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