totaly agree there mate horne fullback,tansey standoff.

Strangely enough, I dont think we missed him last night tbh.

Washbrook was excellent, but its good to have competition in the side cause it brings the best out in players.

On last nights performance i think next season:
1. Tansey
6. Washy
7. Long
13. up for grabs

Could be pretty decent. 4 ball players would give some great options.

whiting

not a bad idea. Considering the wages horne and yeaman are on we need alot more off them.

for me horne needs to up his game a lot to get anywhere near the squad next year, and i think briscoe and hall are better then yeaman most of the time.

Whiting is a better fullback than Horne, imo. Good positional play there, a good reader of the game, and looked dangerous last night.

Agree totally.

We will see a different Richard Horne next year with Sean Long partnering him. IMO of course.

That's the problem with Horne though. He needs someone good alongside him to make him look any good. Bench player for me next year.

Big season coming up for Kirk, 2010 the last year of his current contract. At the same time you've got Briscoe coming through and Hall looking established, plus Turner coming in. Could go in the second row, but we've got Fitz and Manu as first choice, plus Tickle, Radford, Burnett.

Turner is coming to play in his prefered Loose Forward position?

Yeaman, R Horne and Berrigan, none of them where missed, looked a goodteam without them. The next 2 games may tell a story to Agar,

Horne will be 6 next year and Yeaman will be our No1 centre and that is were they belong.

It's no longer that straightforward. The team should be picked on merit not past achievement. If they play well enough to hold down their places then fair enough. Otherwise someone else plays. Neither have done anything to warrant automatic choice this season. They don't "belong" anywhere just like the rest of the squad.

IMO it is that straight forward and we will see what happens.

For me, Horne has had a poor season, and Washbrook has appeared this season to be a much better Stand-Off than him. However, for next season I would like to see Washbrook at Loose-forward, which would mean Horne at Stand-off, unless we sign someone.

I do think that Whiting at fullback, Tansey at 6, Long at 7 and Washbrook at 13 is the way to go, though.

At centre, I like yeaman. I think that he's a strong player, good runner, and everyone loves his signiture dump-tackle. However, in the last few games Hall as looked fantastic there. Always a danger to the oppositions try-line, quick, and with good defence. Next season I would like to see competition for places between Hall, Yeaman and Briscoe. All well as giving us 3 good centres, it'll also push them to be as good as they can.
Judging by recent form, I'd probably choose Hall and Briscoe over Yeaman, though.

However, due to their history and reputation within the club, I do think that Horne and Yeaman will be, if they don't get further injuries, constants in the starting 11. Which I don't agree with.

For me, next season we should line up as:
Whiting, Calderwood, Briscoe, Hall, Raynor, Tansey, Long, Dowes, Houghton, O'Meley, Fitzgibbon, Tickle, Washbrook, Subs: Lauaki, Moa, Manu, Berrigan. Gives us a strong pack, with plenty of creativity from people like Whiting, Tansey, Long, Houghton and Washbrook.

They belong there if they're the best in that position and they still are for me. Yeaman is still the best centre at the club and Horne the best off half. It was no coincidence that last night our pack was on top which allowed the half backs to play, how many times as that happened this season? The best half backs in the world can not perform behind a beaten pack and hopefully that's now been resolved with the recruitment for next year. It's all about opinions though and it would be dull on here if we all agreed.

Evening Chris.

I must have missed these games were Whiting looked good at fullback

I respect your opinion and that of Carlotti completely.

For me both Horne and Yeaman have become too comfortable in their positions. I don't think that helps their own level of performance at all. Both are miles away from where they were when selected for GB. Sure what's happening around them will have an effect, however for me it is these senior players, and others, who have let us down the most this season in terms of level of performance.

ATEOTD all players should have to play for their place and be in on merit. If their performance is up to it they should be in. If not they should be out.

When did you last turn up?

I was there last night and i cant think of a single thing Whiting did in all honesty. Its just seems people want to have him in the starting 13 and look for a way to pick him.

Great contribution as normal chief