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| Quote ="Marcus's Bicycle"Another positive was the fantastic away support, Desperately poor performance but Old Faithful could be heard loud and proud on TV. Well done to all those who made the journey.'"
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| Quote ="bonaire"Are you for real?
There are no fans allowed in the stadium'"
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"What's the score with our pack? We have Taylor, Jones, Satae, Ellis, Savelio missing from our starting 17. Are they all injured?'"
I've not heard a timescale on Taylor's injury. The club said this week "Scott Taylor (back) and Masi Matongo (shoulder) continue their recovery from their respective injuries, with the latter now just two to three weeks away from full-fitness" which would suggest that Taylor is more than three weeks.
No idea on Jones and Savelio. They are "unavailable at this time" whatever that means. Covid related?
Ellis was rested for last night's game which is crazy given the number missing. Surely he can play two weeks in a row? It would have made much more sense for him to play last night as a pack leader then sit out Thursday's game against Wakefield and return for the Cas cup game on the Sunday.
That short turnaround next week already looks daunting given our form and the players out.
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| What’s the craic with Shauls hair ? If it’s a fine then he must be getting fined every week ! ill discipline at training probably shows bad attitude is the point I’m making, if he wants to bleach his hair he can.
The commentators said something about Connor giving someone a mouthful and said it was unwarranted and unprofessional, I genuinely think he thinks he’s better than he is.
Agree about Swift, my granny would have been more use !
Thought Kelly was ok but behind a beaten pack couldn’t do much.
After Thursdays matches wished we’d kept Litten and Hadley, Litten was outstanding.
And finally, FWIW I think Last will be the coach next season
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| Quote ="hesslefan"The best team won.
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Kelly and Connor did not take control. If that was an audition for Connor - and overall I think he is an exceptional player - being a leader on the pitch he failed.
There were a number of mystifying decisions by Thaler. Warrington simply should not have been in possession for their first two tries. Fonua offloaded the ball and I think Warrington knocked on twice but he gave a knock on against Hull. When Johnstone tackled his namesake the commentary team could not understand why a penalty was given. When a pass to Lane was given as forward - well on that basis Wigan will never have a pass allowed again. Ratchford should have been sin binned for interference at the play the ball. All of those were early in the game and allowed Warrington to get momentum. After that every offload etc seemed to stick
Later he awarded a try to Warrington but went to the video ref who overruled him but he still gave them possession from a Hull knock on. Similarly to suggest that Warrington were only offside in about the 75th minute of the game when he had already penalised Hull twice is just ridiculous. Having watched a lot of Australian games during lockdown I like the six again rule but I think with our referees it is just a lottery and do not understand the basis for a lot of the decisions.
Even though Warrington were disrupted by the coronavirus problems they are clearly a more settled club and a team who know what each other are doing. Given player changes last year and a change of coach and the recent issues regarding the pandemic we have a long way to go.'"
The best team won but didn't deserve any of the tries they scored and were kept in the game by a biased referee. Thanks for explaining.
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| Quote ="hesslefan"Having watched a lot of Australian games during lockdown I like the six again rule but I think with our referees it is just a lottery and do not understand the basis for a lot of the decisions.
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| Major changes and improvements needed at our club. If Pearson doesn’t have the money it will be difficult, so tough times ahead. We need a new coach with new ideas. Nothing against Andy Last but he worked under Radford for a long time, so it’s same old same old. Our second string simply are not big enough, good enough and/or are not being coached well enough. Wire had a weak team out last night but still looked a far better all round side than us. The club can issue all the excuses it wants (all teams are in the same boat at the minute) but most of us can see we are a badly coached team with a lot of average players, including some of our so called star players. I think us, the supporters, deserve better.
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| Quote ="Stephen Brown"Major changes and improvements needed at our club. If Pearson doesn’t have the money it will be difficult, so tough times ahead. We need a new coach with new ideas. Nothing against Andy Last but he worked under Radford for a long time, so it’s same old same old. Our second string simply are not big enough, good enough and/or are not being coached well enough. Wire had a weak team out last night but still looked a far better all round side than us. The club can issue all the excuses it wants (all teams are in the same boat at the minute) but most of us can see we are a badly coached team with a lot of average players, including some of our so called star players. I think us, the supporters, deserve better.'"
Good post SB, a lot has been said in last nights match regarding players missing, the outcome of the game was a front row with Fash Brown and Johnstone, was always going to struggle against Cooper, Clarke and the other fresh NRL player they introduced, men against boys really. Rachie and Curry behind them, no surprises for me. We didn’t capitulate as we recently have, and on this occasion, although outplayed, the effort was for the full game.
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| I didn’t understand Josh going to full back, Buchanan perhaps or even Connor with Carlos going in the halves, very strange bench last night, wingers etc, maybe lack of bodies.
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| As I Warrington fan I strongly agree with the posters who have said to get Tony Smith in charge, he turned Warrington into contenders and although he never got us over the line we are now challenging for honours consistently . Hull are a sleeping giant in this game they have everything in place, stadium, support, you’ve even improved your squad to one that could challenge with the right coach. Smith for me would come in and sort out the deadwood and any players who don’t have the right attitude. His style of play is exciting, defence tough your fans would love it I hope you do get him in as the game needs a strong and challenging hull side.
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| Quote ="Tarquin Fuego"I wanted to start a thread for this one
Please move Swift to York
He’s not a SL winger. Never ever.
Taking Lineham on 7 mins into the game after the charge down and going out side of him and guess what
Into touch and they score off that next possession
Running the ball back and his head is way too high and makes nil metres as too easily pushed back
Knock on off Shaul and blames Shaul
Misses 2 tackles for tries to Mamo
He made the same error per CoVid in getting bundled into touch taking the outside
He’s NOT GOOD ENOUGH'"
Only thing he did well was to bring the player back over the tryline for a goal line drop out.
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| Quote ="The Camels Hump"
And finally, FWIW I think Last will be the coach next season'"
I thought the opposite, especially when i saw Pearsons face during the second half. I reckon for him to be given the job he will have to turn things around massively between now and the end of the season.
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| Quote ="DizzyHeights"As I Warrington fan I strongly agree with the posters who have said to get Tony Smith in charge, he turned Warrington into contenders and although he never got us over the line we are now challenging for honours consistently . Hull are a sleeping giant in this game they have everything in place, stadium, support, you’ve even improved your squad to one that could challenge with the right coach. Smith for me would come in and sort out the deadwood and any players who don’t have the right attitude. His style of play is exciting, defence tough your fans would love it I hope you do get him in as the game needs a strong and challenging hull side.'"
thanks ,a very sensible post.
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| Quote ="DizzyHeights"As I Warrington fan I strongly agree with the posters who have said to get Tony Smith in charge, he turned Warrington into contenders and although he never got us over the line we are now challenging for honours consistently . Hull are a sleeping giant in this game they have everything in place, stadium, support, you’ve even improved your squad to one that could challenge with the right coach. Smith for me would come in and sort out the deadwood and any players who don’t have the right attitude. His style of play is exciting, defence tough your fans would love it I hope you do get him in as the game needs a strong and challenging hull side.'"
I didnt know Tony Smith was unemployed ......Oh he isn't He is the coach of an up and coming strong and challenging side in Hull
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| challenging?bottom of the league .ha ha
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| Quote ="DizzyHeights"If we’re being honest he jumps ship in a heartbeat if hull fc come in for him. k.r unfortunately for their supporters will always be super league fodder it’s just in their makeup .'"
You are seriously deluding yourself. But you keep on dreaming if it keeps you happy.
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| Quote ="Seventies red"You are seriously deluding yourself. But you keep on dreaming if it keeps you happy.'"
I’m a Warrington fan I don’t care, just speaking the truth . Only thing stopping hull fc from getting up there challenging is a decent coach, there’s plenty stopping hull k.r, poorer players, 3 stands in an awful stadium, fewer supporters, this is just from an outsiders perspective. Hull fc are a big club, rovers unfortunately aren’t.
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| Quote ="DizzyHeights"I’m a Warrington fan I don’t care, just speaking the truth . Only thing stopping hull fc from getting up there challenging is a decent coach, there’s plenty stopping hull k.r, poorer players, 3 stands in an awful stadium, fewer supporters, this is just from an outsiders perspective. Hull fc are a big club, rovers unfortunately aren’t.'"
Well thanks for your outside perspective......Im sure the players and fans of Hull Kingston Rovers wont lose any sleep over your opinion of us
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| Quote ="Riderofthepalehorse"I didn’t understand Josh going to full back, Buchanan perhaps or even Connor with Carlos going in the halves, very strange bench last night, wingers etc, maybe lack of bodies.'"
I dont understand Buchanan been included at all.
He drafts Cam Scott into the 21 who is staying at the club then plays Buchanan ahead of him when he is leaving the club.
We are desperately short of forwards yet Bienek never gets a look in.
Maybe something to do with having to take on his salary if Leigh release him but then why have Scott released when we have plenty of centre/wing cover and then dont play him.
Seems to me Last is way out of his depth here and as you say why all the positional changes when Shaul went off
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| Quote ="bonaire"I dont understand Buchanan been included at all.
He drafts Cam Scott into the 21 who is staying at the club then plays Buchanan ahead of him when he is leaving the club.
We are desperately short of forwards yet Bienek never gets a look in.
Maybe something to do with having to take on his salary if Leigh release him but then why have Scott released when we have plenty of centre/wing cover and then dont play him.
Seems to me Last is way out of his depth here and as you say why all the positional changes when Shaul went off'"
Scott was signed before the financial meltdown, Buchanan was released because of the financial meltdown - maybe the club believes Buchanan is currently still the better player of the two.
Or maybe we shouldn't consider playing anyone who's contract hasn't yet been renewed - it's still a long list!!
Maybe Bienek hasn't a release clause with Leigh, and they want to keep him?
Maybe Leigh released Scott?
Lot's of maybe's, but a good excuse to criticise the club, that's all you're looking for.
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| Quote ="ccs"Scott was signed before the financial meltdown, Buchanan was released because of the financial meltdown - maybe the club believes Buchanan is currently still the better player of the two.
Or maybe we shouldn't consider playing anyone who's contract hasn't yet been renewed - it's still a long list!!
Maybe Bienek hasn't a release clause with Leigh, and they want to keep him?
Maybe Leigh released Scott?
Lot's of maybe's, but a good excuse to criticise the club, that's all you're looking for.'"
Why would Leigh want to keep Bienek and pay him when he is not playing?
Why would the club get a release for Scott and presumably take on his salary again,include him in the 21 then not play him?
Why when we are so short of forwards did the club not get a release for Bienek rather than Scott whose wing/centre position is well covered.
I understand some of your points but they dont make sense.
What it looks like is that Bienek has no future at the club and will be released
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| Quote ="bonaire"Why would Leigh want to keep Bienek and pay him when he is not playing?
Why would the club get a release for Scott and presumably take on his salary again,include him in the 21 then not play him?
Why when we are so short of forwards did the club not get a release for Bienek rather than Scott whose wing/centre position is well covered.
I understand some of your points but they dont make sense.
What it looks like is that Bienek has no future at the club and will be released'"
You keep saying "why", but ignore any plausible reasons.
Bienek won't have cost Leigh a penny if I understand the furlough payments correctly.
They could be paying 10% from 1st September.
How do you know what the loan agreements are?
Some have release clauses, some don't.
Some require both clubs to agree on a release.
I know no more than you do, so I don't criticise the club - you take the opposite approach.
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| Ignoring some of the irrelevant and inflammatory posts, as I've only just been able to watch the match tonight, yesterday's performance felt like a real kick in the teeth again.
From the highs of Huddersfield back to the lows of Salford.
A performance littered with errors, a static attacking structure yet again that you could throw a net over and only relying on the individual brilliance of Kelly.
Defensively once more extremely soft conceding some easy tries.
Due to our poor attacking structure, errors, coupled with Warringington's aggressive defence and enthusiasm, we tackled ourselves to a standstill and ran out of energy.
We are a team of good individual players but not a good team.
I'd hoped Last and the team had turned a corner last week but it was another performance in which we flatter to deceive.
There is no change in our play or attitude and it's very disappointing to watch.
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