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| I voted with my feet. Booked days annual when fixtures came out but, ..
Live in Sussex and its £100 in petrol, £25 for seat plus programme then a pint. There was a time a couple of years ago I would have not even thought about the cost. Now I do as I don't get value for that any more. I have Sky so not missed it and so glad I saved a bob or two. I have also decided I will not be spending in the club shop again until the coach has gone. It will be the first time since the 80s that I haven"t had at least a shirt.
I don't suppose I will be the only one. Patience has gone now.
Come in Nobby and rescue my club please.
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| Quote ="Graham Richards"I voted with my feet. Booked days annual when fixtures came out but, ..
Live in Sussex and its £100 in petrol, £25 for seat plus programme then a pint. There was a time a couple of years ago I would have not even thought about the cost. Now I do as I don't get value for that any more. I have Sky so not missed it and so glad I saved a bob or two. I have also decided I will not be spending in the club shop again until the coach has gone. It will be the first time since the 80s that I haven"t had at least a shirt.
I don't suppose I will be the only one. Patience has gone now.
Come in Nobby and rescue my club please.'"
Well said.
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| Very poor crowd, gotta be the lowest for a 'home opener' since we moved to the KC?
don't blame anyone for giving it a miss, I would've pay 23p to watch Hull at the moment, never mind £23...wish they did season pass refunds!
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Poor attendance tonight.
First home game of the season and against Leeds we should be looking at 15,000 minimum, regardless of Sky TV. In 2005 the opening game again against Leeds had an attendance of over 17,000.
Looks like people are voting with their feet.'"
People may argue that we're in a recession and people can't afford to go to the games any more. I think that it will have some effect on why the attendance is low, but I don't think it's the biggest effect. I don't have a season pass because of my work patterns but if work wasn't screwed up I don't think I would get one. We do play very very poor rugby IMO. I've been saying for a while that Agar is not good enough for Hull FC. I hate to say it but the rivals across the river are looking a far better side then we are and I think they will be with Agar in charge.
If the "recession" is the main reason then why doesn't the club do something about this to get more fans in the stadium such as lowering tickets, season passes or giving freebies! The east stand looked empty and we are playing Leeds!!! Other then rovers I see Leeds as the second biggest game of the season! I thought I would never see the east stand and other areas of the ground as empty as they was, especially against our rivals!
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| Quote ="jehull"People may argue that we're in a recession and people can't afford to go to the games any more. I think that it will have some effect on why the attendance is low, but I don't think it's the biggest effect. I don't have a season pass because of my work patterns but if work wasn't screwed up I don't think I would get one. We do play very very poor rugby IMO. I've been saying for a while that Agar is not good enough for Hull FC. I hate to say it but the rivals across the river are looking a far better side then we are and I think they will be with Agar in charge.
If the "recession" is the main reason then why doesn't the club do something about this to get more fans in the stadium such as lowering tickets, season passes or giving freebies! The east stand looked empty and we are playing Leeds!!! Other then rovers I see Leeds as the second biggest game of the season! I thought I would never see the east stand and other areas of the ground as empty as they was, especially against our rivals!'"
I don't think the recession is a massive factor, yes some people are genuinely priced out of attending games due to job loss/loss of income...but for the vast majority its simply that all optimism and belief has gone that we can win SL or the CC.
what makes things worse, is that aside from Rovers and possibly Wigan...that will be the biggest away following we'll see this season.
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| I've left the last 3 games that I've attended (Crusaders, Rovers and tonight) asking why did I bother. Don't think I'll be going again till things pick up, freezing cold tonight and despite playing a severely understrength Leeds we never even looked like winning.
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| Quote ="UllFC"[uVery poor crowd, gotta be the lowest for a 'home opener' since we moved to the KC?[/u
don't blame anyone for giving it a miss, I would've pay 23p to watch Hull at the moment, never mind £23...wish they did season pass refunds!'"
Not really, in 2006 for example we got 11,860 against Wakefield.
Against Leeds, however, we should be aiming for at least 15,000 even given the Millennium Magic defeat.
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| Atmosphere was dire . Making the East Stand fully reserved was a big mistake.
Love or hate "Chav" corner , at least they made a noise!
The KC has created a sanitised away side friendly enviroment.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Not really, in 2006 for example we got 11,860 against Wakefield.
Against Leeds, however, we should be aiming for at least 15,000 even given the Millennium Magic defeat.'"
It could be the lowest home support. Leeds brought a fair few for an away game live on sky. Wakey don't have a huge away following. You could be wrong there........ or I could be.
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| awfull attendence WELL DONE JIMMY RULE
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| Quote ="jehull"[uIt could be the lowest home support.[/u Leeds brought a fair few for an away game live on sky. Wakey don't have a huge away following. You could be wrong there........ or I could be.
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| Quote ="HFC Boy"Atmosphere was dire . Making the East Stand fully reserved was a big mistake.
Love or hate "Chav" corner , at least they made a noise!
The KC has created a sanitised away side friendly enviroment.'"
Most of the time the atmosphere comes from the performance on the pitch. See Saints H last year and Leeds at H last year as examples. We were worse than poor from the off tonight. Hence no atmosphere.
All we are likely to have next time up is chants of Agar out......unless.......
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| Quote ="HFC Boy"Atmosphere was dire . Making the East Stand fully reserved was a big mistake.
Love or hate "Chav" corner , at least they made a noise!
The KC has created a sanitised away side friendly enviroment.'"
too early to say what effect the reserved East stand had, the fans were subdued and moaning about the team/Agar even before kick-off, so I don't think it was ever going to be a great atmosphere.
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| I personally think the kc has always been very flat atmosphere wise compared to the boulevard and think our size of fanbase would be more suited to something similar to the haliwell jones but must'nt grumble its stillma fantastic stadium.
On another note didnt they do an offer tonight £19 tickets if bought in advance so even with that offer people still stayed away so i dont think the recession is to blame i think people are voting with their feet, if i wasnt daft enough to buy a pass i think i mght of even stayed awat tonight.
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| Quote ="BEN_THE_BLACK&WHITE"I personally think the kc has always been very flat atmosphere wise compared to the boulevard and think our size of fanbase would be more suited to something similar to the haliwell jones but must'nt grumble its stillma fantastic stadium.
On another note didnt they do an offer tonight £19 tickets if bought in advance so even with that offer people still stayed away so i dont think the recession is to blame i think people are voting with their feet, if i wasnt daft enough to buy a pass i think i mght of even stayed awat tonight.'"
you are right there was an advanced ticket deal for family's in the West Stand, which makes the crowd figure even worse.
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| This is the first season in 12 I havnt had a pass, I didn't go tonight because I didn't fancy paying 20 odd quid to watch such an un organised and unstructured team on a cold Friday night, my decision was justified and I'm sure others did the same.
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| Quote ="jordanp"This is the first season in 12 I havnt had a pass, I didn't go tonight because I didn't fancy paying 20 odd quid to watch such an un organised and unstructured team on a cold Friday night, my decision was justified and I'm sure others did the same.'"
Yep same here fella and I won't be going back anytime soon, simply can't be d (much like our team).
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| Quote ="Smiggs"Yep same here fella and I won't be going back anytime soon, simply can't be d (much like our team).'"
yep i stayed away i aint paying 23pound to see that,and there is no loyalty in sport, i voted with my feet i guess a few did last night,watched it in the warm in three crowns.
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| Yep, the club have used the "in any kind of weather" and "keep the faith" lines to justify ripping people off but it dosnt wash with me, and before I'm acused of abandoning my team, I'll probabally go to every away game and watch every game on SKY, I just don't want the club to get my money because as a customer I'm not happy.
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| Quote ="jordanp"Yep, the club have used the "in any kind of weather" and "keep the faith" lines to justify ripping people off but it dosnt wash with me, and before I'm acused of abandoning my team, I'll probabally go to every away game and watch every game on SKY, I just don't want the club to get my money because as a customer I'm not happy.'"
Good points. The club milked the stat of 3 finals in 4 years for long enough. Try no play-off wins since 2007 (and only qualifying once) and tell us that "targeting silverware" is a realistic ambition.
FWIW, despite the shortcomings of the squad in terms of balance, I still think if we had a top coach we could make a reasonable season of it. 0 or 1 fom 5, though, and the season's over along with attendances averaging anywhere near last year. A financial loss and more belt -tightening - it's called a vicious circle.
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| Quote ="hullbg"Gonna still be getting 10k at least with 9000 pass holders.'"
Had this been published anywhere?
I doubt we will have that many this season.
4500 less fans there than the opening game of the 2005 season. Thinking back to that game 6 years ago, Blacklock and Kearney made their debuts (strictly speaking so did Tommy Saxton) and we had a new coach in Kear. Morale was high with the fans.
4500, with an average spend of £20 (likely to be more in reality). There is £90k lost.
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| i'd say thats a bloody good attendance given the crap that's been served up for the past 2 years. even the pass holders i know don't want to go but just go out of habbit and the small hope that things might improve. hull fc are going stedily down the pan with the rest of the unbelievably dull super league.
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| Ill repeat what i said before the Leeds game.
Quote ="Sebasteeno"My issue is that when i go i always go with the wife but when you factor in a couple of beers, perhaps a bit of food plus the entrance fee your looking at £100 for the two of us. Now do i think the quality of rugby played by Hull FC is worth £100 when times are very hard and ive got three children and the answer is clearly no. Five drives and a kick, one penalty against us and we roll over and die and bemusing selections means ill be very selective of my choice of games or not go at all till the entertainment improves and that will only be when Agar is sacked or walks.'"
I just hope that more people vote with their feet and the board finally sit up and take notice. The sad reality is that they probably wont and we will slowly go down the pan and get even further away from the rest of the pack. And to think all it would take is to sack Agar and istall a decent coach and then optimism would return and more than likey so would performances.
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"Had this been published anywhere?
I doubt we will have that many this season.
4500 less fans there than the opening game of the 2005 season. Thinking back to that game 6 years ago, Blacklock and Kearney made their debuts (strictly speaking so did Tommy Saxton) and we had a new coach in Kear. Morale was high with the fans.
4500, with an average spend of £20 (likely to be more in reality). There is £90k lost.
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Are you implying that if we replace Agar with a decent coach for £90k more than Agar's on, the decision will pay back in less than a week? Let's treat any severance as a sunk cost. Quite a compelling business case there.
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